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ambrose7 Croydon 15 Apr 14 2.19pm
Quote adrian b at 15 Apr 2014 12.40pm Quote EastEndPalace at 14 Apr 2014 6.24pm Quote adrian b at 14 Apr 2014 1.47pm Palace already have a legacy. A homely club with emphasis on bringing in and developing players and instilling a good standard for them to make a living at it. Pretty high support but lack of real conviction. Are we calling for a change of legacy? If so, what needs changing? Doing it on a grander scale rather then developing players and selling them for peanuts maybe. Unless your happy with us being that kind of club :p Edited by EastEndPalace (14 Apr 2014 6.25pm) See your point Eastender, but this is the Palace legacy and I like it as it just needs honing. I'm not so sure you can call it a legacy as much as a financial survival plan. Although it was great to see local kids come through, it was always primarily an investment. Therefore, if we were to stay up for a while, it'd go in a very different direction needing to produce an outstanding player every two years or so, rather than 2 or 3 good ones a year. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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Croydon 15 Apr 14 2.19pm

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Palace already have a legacy. A homely club with emphasis on bringing in and developing players and instilling a good standard for them to make a living at it. Pretty high support but lack of real conviction. Are we calling for a change of legacy? If so, what needs changing?

Doing it on a grander scale rather then developing players and selling them for peanuts maybe. Unless your happy with us being that kind of club :p

Edited by EastEndPalace (14 Apr 2014 6.25pm)

See your point Eastender, but this is the Palace legacy and I like it as it just needs honing.

I'm not so sure you can call it a legacy as much as a financial survival plan. Although it was great to see local kids come through, it was always primarily an investment. Therefore, if we were to stay up for a while, it'd go in a very different direction needing to produce an outstanding player every two years or so, rather than 2 or 3 good ones a year.

26th January 2010 - Enter Administration
2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough
1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds
7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.

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Pinky Kent 15 Apr 14 2.24pm
Quote adrian b at 15 Apr 2014 2.10pm Quote Pinky at 15 Apr 2014 1.07pm We've never been a sleeping giant, more a slightly annoying dwarf, but I'd love to see us mature into a credible mid-table (and beyond) Prem club (all this yo-yoing makes me feel queasy) with a decent stadium. Not too much to ask after 109 years, is it? How old are you Pinky? Palace really are a sleeping giant. In one of the most heavily populated areas in the world the word potential has been done to death. The problem is whether Palace will ever mature. There has been a few false starts, but basically each time there is a move up, like at the moment, Palace are adding to their legacy. Are there enough years in the future for Palace to eventually do it? Why not. I'd classify a sleeping giant as a club with a historic tradition of success in the top flight/the Cup but who have been underachieving for decades, relative to their former exploits (Sunderland, Newcastle, Wolves, Blackpool, Bolton and the like). Not denying that Palace should be able to dominate South London, but our previous exploits have been failrly small beer. As for age (just in case you might be thinking I am some callow yoof killing time during half-term), my first Palace game was a 3-3 draw against Bury in 1974/5. Young? No. Immature? I hope so.
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We've never been a sleeping giant, more a slightly annoying dwarf, but I'd love to see us mature into a credible mid-table (and beyond) Prem club (all this yo-yoing makes me feel queasy) with a decent stadium. Not too much to ask after 109 years, is it?

How old are you Pinky? Palace really are a sleeping giant. In one of the most heavily populated areas in the world the word potential has been done to death. The problem is whether Palace will ever mature. There has been a few false starts, but basically each time there is a move up, like at the moment, Palace are adding to their legacy. Are there enough years in the future for Palace to eventually do it? Why not.

I'd classify a sleeping giant as a club with a historic tradition of success in the top flight/the Cup but who have been underachieving for decades, relative to their former exploits (Sunderland, Newcastle, Wolves, Blackpool, Bolton and the like). Not denying that Palace should be able to dominate South London, but our previous exploits have been failrly small beer. As for age (just in case you might be thinking I am some callow yoof killing time during half-term), my first Palace game was a 3-3 draw against Bury in 1974/5. Young? No. Immature? I hope so.

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 15 Apr 14 6.49pm
Sorry Pinky, no insult implied, just I thought you may not have experienced the fantastic giantism that is sometimes Palace. True Palace haven't quite achieved the heights of some of those you mention, but the potential is equal to that of a greater achiever, in some cases much greater. Just on crowd area 'pull' Palace are at the top. Just needs to be harnessed.
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Landrindod, Wales 15 Apr 14 6.49pm

Sorry Pinky, no insult implied, just I thought you may not have experienced the fantastic giantism that is sometimes Palace. True Palace haven't quite achieved the heights of some of those you mention, but the potential is equal to that of a greater achiever, in some cases much greater. Just on crowd area 'pull' Palace are at the top. Just needs to be harnessed.

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Pinky Kent 15 Apr 14 10.25pm
Quote adrian b at 15 Apr 2014 6.49pm Sorry Pinky, no insult implied, just I thought you may not have experienced the fantastic giantism that is sometimes Palace. True Palace haven't quite achieved the heights of some of those you mention, but the potential is equal to that of a greater achiever, in some cases much greater. Just on crowd area 'pull' Palace are at the top. Just needs to be harnessed. No offence taken. Been on the roller coaster for a long time. Hoping for a smoother ride in future. We seem to be in a good place right now. Fingers crossed, eh?
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Kent 15 Apr 14 10.25pm

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No offence taken. Been on the roller coaster for a long time. Hoping for a smoother ride in future. We seem to be in a good place right now. Fingers crossed, eh?

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David of Kent Hoo 16 Apr 14 11.45am
With the billionaires involved at other clubs, I'm not sure we could ever become more than a mid table Premier League club. I'd be more than happy with that if we are playing exciting football (and that doesn't equate to tika taka, I think a lot of the football we've played recently is pretty exciting) and give it a crack in the domestic cups too every year.
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Hoo 16 Apr 14 11.45am

With the billionaires involved at other clubs, I'm not sure we could ever become more than a mid table Premier League club. I'd be more than happy with that if we are playing exciting football (and that doesn't equate to tika taka, I think a lot of the football we've played recently is pretty exciting) and give it a crack in the domestic cups too every year.

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EagleRider Seasalter, Kent 16 Apr 14 12.02pm
Quote David of Kent at 16 Apr 2014 11.45am With the billionaires involved at other clubs, I'm not sure we could ever become more than a mid table Premier League club. I'd be more than happy with that if we are playing exciting football (and that doesn't equate to tika taka, I think a lot of the football we've played recently is pretty exciting) and give it a crack in the domestic cups too every year. Agreed, we're not the type of club who will risk a club debt in the tens of millions to sign some young guy who's been great in La Liga but hasn't proven himself elsewhere Personally, I like gritty tactical football, and that's what Pulis and the scrappers we've brought in this year play. Next year let's hope for more signings like Puncheon, Dann, and Ledley to keep upping the game even if it doesn't always look pretty. I'd rather be middle of the table at the top level than top of the championship table looking to move up
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Quote David of Kent at 16 Apr 2014 11.45am

Agreed, we're not the type of club who will risk a club debt in the tens of millions to sign some young guy who's been great in La Liga but hasn't proven himself elsewhere

Personally, I like gritty tactical football, and that's what Pulis and the scrappers we've brought in this year play. Next year let's hope for more signings like Puncheon, Dann, and Ledley to keep upping the game even if it doesn't always look pretty.

I'd rather be middle of the table at the top level than top of the championship table looking to move up

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