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Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks...
A few years ago we was all outside sainsburys singing for our club to remain a club and now we've got fans coming out with this utter s***e. How could anyone prefer to go down "playing good football" what the f***?! Take a look around, it's about being effective in the world of football and GETTING RESULTS. Chelsea are top of the league but don't play football close to the standards of City but Mourinho knows to win the premier league you need a solid back 4 and the ability to grind out results! Tony Pulis is a legend whether we stay up or not to get us in the position he has and if people wanna "go down but play 'nicer' football" I don't know what planet they're living on. Come on guys, we waited almost 10 years for the opportunity to play in the premier league again and the support just seems so negative recently! The atmosphere was very poor on Saturday also, we need to stop expecting so much and get behind the team no matter what, win or lose, good or bad! I don't know if anyone also recalls we were favourites to go down with the lowest points ever and look at us now! We shouldn't be bitching, we should be proud and trust Pulis, look at all the other teams who got new managers (Fulham, Cardiff, West Brom etc.) I bet they would've done anything to get someone like Pulis in! Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.32am) Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.37am)
Having a game plan which seemingly is to sit on our own 18 yard box, let the opposition have the ball, maybe get a foot in and then see what happens, especially at home, is just a wasted opportunity. Going down by losing by the odd goal in every game is still going down (although I dont care what Div we are in - I cant say I enjoy this PL mallarkey one bit) As was shown at Swansea - when we look for more 'go forward' we can cause teams problems - time to drop the two defensive midfield shields and put someone who might be able to create something - and play 5 yards higher up the pitch...as we did at Swansea 2nd half This cedeing the ball to the opposition is crazy. We all know we have limitations and that Holloway for the most part bought a load of old sh*t and I am not advocating some gung ho, Charge of the Light Brigade forward every time we get the ball but we have to tip the balance more to going forward. We have to create something for Murray
Swansea and Southampton are better teams than us, and all but a stupid mistake by Puncheon, we would've got a point against them which would've been excellent - Southampton are a QUALITY side. Swansea absolutely destroyed us at home under Holloway and FULHAM beat us 4-1!!! We are playing much better under Pulis and WE ARE OUT OF THE RELEGATION ZONE. I just can't understand people that are criticizing this guy!? Before he came we wouldn't still be in with a shout in our wildest dreams! The support has gone down hill of late and it really is frustrating, some people need to remember where we came from - we have the best chance to stay up in the Premier League for the first time in our history and if we do so Tony Pulis is nothing short of a legend! End of story, how people disagree with that because of so called "hoof ball" is beyond me! D'you think Chelsea fans right now are moaning about Mourinho and saying "I'd prefer to come second playing better football than City". It's ridiculous!
They arent 'quality' - they are decent, better than us man for man, but to play so defensively and not shake them out of their complacency all game was shocking. Southampton were comfortable all afternoon because we simply didnt press of test them at all...and that was down to a) some players turning in absolutley dreadful performances and b) the way we set up Forget Puncheons cock up, forget the idiot Webb - We had one shot of any meaning in 90 minutes at home Southampton are quality, full stop. If you disagree, you clearly haven't watched the premier league this seaon - if we tried to match them for quality it would'be been humiliation and people such as yourself would be slagging off Pulis even more. We are punching way above our weight with the team we have and under anyone else would be a certainty for relegation at this point of the season. And in terms of Puncheouns cock up - forgetting it is pointless, it happened and the fact of the matter "hoof-ball" or not, if he didn't make the error, we would've got a point and I said before the match I'd take a point all day long against Southampton. I honestly don't know what Palace fans want at times, it's just a constant whinge about something - we should appreciate what Pulis has done for this club and judge him on results - Rome wasn't built in a day and tryna take risks and set up some Barca type s*** with the quality we have and the position we're in would be absolute suicide. Some people just don't understand tactics or football and what it takes to get to the top - RESULTS. I'll go back to the example of Mourinho and even Sir Alex last season, neither team played anywhere near the quality or slickness of Manchester City but they got the points when it mattered by having a solid foundation and ensuring they get the points required and I'm sure neither set of fans complained when they won the title and we shouldn't be complaining about "hoof ball" when we are in our position that shouldn't be in our wildest dreams! We can worry about football at a later stage, and be concerned if we're still playing this style of football 3 seasons down the line - right now and for the next couple of seasons (if we stay up), our main focus HAS to be survival - if you say you would prefer to be in the Championship but play "more attractive" football then I think you have forgotten that this is a COMPETITIVE SPORT and the dream of every single team in the Championship is TO BE IN THE PREMIERSHIP - not play more attractive football without the results! It seems again another simple quite obvious thing has blown out of proportion with some really, really odd views - I understand not everyone will agree but how any Palace fan can say they would prefer for us to go down then stay up REGARDLESS of the football is just completely and utterly beyond me. Come on! We are on the brink of making history at this football club and people are bitching the "football isn't good enough" - that's absolute madness!!
Take a deep breath, swallow your ritalin and read my posts again, youll see I am not whingeing or pissing about the 'attractiveness' or otherwise of the fayre on offer but more the fact we set up to play 80 minutes on the edge of our own penalty area - that will not keep us up. We need to balance the attack / defence better or we will simply go down on a raft of unlucky 1-0 defeats If that Southampton team who turned up on Saturday were 'quality' then I suggest you havent watched much PL football either and no amount of you going off on wilding w*nking ranting tangents about Slur Alex or the Special Needs One will make me think otherwise. You go on about it being about results, sorry I mean RESULTS. Well we arent getting them at the sharp end are we but more importantly the good performances we put up at the likes of Chelsea and Old Traffors are looking like distant memories - and thats a worry On the day Southampton were beatable and after a ten minute or so flurry at the start we simply allowed them to play their way in to the game and pretty much exert no energy staying in it and staying ahead. Its not about matching them for 'quality' as I said if you could be bothered to read it - man for man they are far better but to essentially give them such a comfortable afternoon through a combination of a) players just not playing and b) Setting up so we just cede 80 odd yards of pitch to them in the hope we win the ball, hoof it in Glenn Murrays general direction in the hope something happens off the back of it is not tactical genius....one shot on goal in anger and one Bolassie run which should have been a red in 90 minutes was the sum total of our attacking threat and that wasnt down to Southampton being better on the day - It was down to us Edited by The Sash (10 Mar 2014 1.00pm) Well done - good reply. Just to remind you again - forgetting statistics, we lost 1-0 to a mistake. Just saying
We had one shot, straight into the keepers middle - they not only scored but hit a post and had a free kick scrape just over and they did that playing largely lethargically and comfortably, Jules also pulled off a 'worldy' not knowing the flag was up for offside They had no need to chase or quicken the game and dare I say it probably saw that we were so deep they knew they didnt need to break a sweat to hold on. Whichever way you cut it Pulis and the players got it monumentally wrong on Saturday - forget the goal, tactically it was not what was required on the day And where is the guarantee they would not have gone on to make a mistake of their own and we'd won 1 0? If your auntie had bollox she'd be you uncle!
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Can't believe some on here are insinuating they'd like to get rid of TP! I tell you what, if the board chose differently we could have had an 'R' next to our name in a couple of weeks...
A few years ago we was all outside sainsburys singing for our club to remain a club and now we've got fans coming out with this utter s***e. How could anyone prefer to go down "playing good football" what the f***?! Take a look around, it's about being effective in the world of football and GETTING RESULTS. Chelsea are top of the league but don't play football close to the standards of City but Mourinho knows to win the premier league you need a solid back 4 and the ability to grind out results! Tony Pulis is a legend whether we stay up or not to get us in the position he has and if people wanna "go down but play 'nicer' football" I don't know what planet they're living on. Come on guys, we waited almost 10 years for the opportunity to play in the premier league again and the support just seems so negative recently! The atmosphere was very poor on Saturday also, we need to stop expecting so much and get behind the team no matter what, win or lose, good or bad! I don't know if anyone also recalls we were favourites to go down with the lowest points ever and look at us now! We shouldn't be bitching, we should be proud and trust Pulis, look at all the other teams who got new managers (Fulham, Cardiff, West Brom etc.) I bet they would've done anything to get someone like Pulis in! Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.32am) Edited by Mstrobez (10 Mar 2014 8.37am)
Having a game plan which seemingly is to sit on our own 18 yard box, let the opposition have the ball, maybe get a foot in and then see what happens, especially at home, is just a wasted opportunity. Going down by losing by the odd goal in every game is still going down (although I dont care what Div we are in - I cant say I enjoy this PL mallarkey one bit) As was shown at Swansea - when we look for more 'go forward' we can cause teams problems - time to drop the two defensive midfield shields and put someone who might be able to create something - and play 5 yards higher up the pitch...as we did at Swansea 2nd half This cedeing the ball to the opposition is crazy. We all know we have limitations and that Holloway for the most part bought a load of old sh*t and I am not advocating some gung ho, Charge of the Light Brigade forward every time we get the ball but we have to tip the balance more to going forward. We have to create something for Murray
Swansea and Southampton are better teams than us, and all but a stupid mistake by Puncheon, we would've got a point against them which would've been excellent - Southampton are a QUALITY side. Swansea absolutely destroyed us at home under Holloway and FULHAM beat us 4-1!!! We are playing much better under Pulis and WE ARE OUT OF THE RELEGATION ZONE. I just can't understand people that are criticizing this guy!? Before he came we wouldn't still be in with a shout in our wildest dreams! The support has gone down hill of late and it really is frustrating, some people need to remember where we came from - we have the best chance to stay up in the Premier League for the first time in our history and if we do so Tony Pulis is nothing short of a legend! End of story, how people disagree with that because of so called "hoof ball" is beyond me! D'you think Chelsea fans right now are moaning about Mourinho and saying "I'd prefer to come second playing better football than City". It's ridiculous!
They arent 'quality' - they are decent, better than us man for man, but to play so defensively and not shake them out of their complacency all game was shocking. Southampton were comfortable all afternoon because we simply didnt press of test them at all...and that was down to a) some players turning in absolutley dreadful performances and b) the way we set up Forget Puncheons cock up, forget the idiot Webb - We had one shot of any meaning in 90 minutes at home Southampton are quality, full stop. If you disagree, you clearly haven't watched the premier league this seaon - if we tried to match them for quality it would'be been humiliation and people such as yourself would be slagging off Pulis even more. We are punching way above our weight with the team we have and under anyone else would be a certainty for relegation at this point of the season. And in terms of Puncheouns cock up - forgetting it is pointless, it happened and the fact of the matter "hoof-ball" or not, if he didn't make the error, we would've got a point and I said before the match I'd take a point all day long against Southampton. I honestly don't know what Palace fans want at times, it's just a constant whinge about something - we should appreciate what Pulis has done for this club and judge him on results - Rome wasn't built in a day and tryna take risks and set up some Barca type s*** with the quality we have and the position we're in would be absolute suicide. Some people just don't understand tactics or football and what it takes to get to the top - RESULTS. I'll go back to the example of Mourinho and even Sir Alex last season, neither team played anywhere near the quality or slickness of Manchester City but they got the points when it mattered by having a solid foundation and ensuring they get the points required and I'm sure neither set of fans complained when they won the title and we shouldn't be complaining about "hoof ball" when we are in our position that shouldn't be in our wildest dreams! We can worry about football at a later stage, and be concerned if we're still playing this style of football 3 seasons down the line - right now and for the next couple of seasons (if we stay up), our main focus HAS to be survival - if you say you would prefer to be in the Championship but play "more attractive" football then I think you have forgotten that this is a COMPETITIVE SPORT and the dream of every single team in the Championship is TO BE IN THE PREMIERSHIP - not play more attractive football without the results! It seems again another simple quite obvious thing has blown out of proportion with some really, really odd views - I understand not everyone will agree but how any Palace fan can say they would prefer for us to go down then stay up REGARDLESS of the football is just completely and utterly beyond me. Come on! We are on the brink of making history at this football club and people are bitching the "football isn't good enough" - that's absolute madness!!
Take a deep breath, swallow your ritalin and read my posts again, youll see I am not whingeing or pissing about the 'attractiveness' or otherwise of the fayre on offer but more the fact we set up to play 80 minutes on the edge of our own penalty area - that will not keep us up. We need to balance the attack / defence better or we will simply go down on a raft of unlucky 1-0 defeats If that Southampton team who turned up on Saturday were 'quality' then I suggest you havent watched much PL football either and no amount of you going off on wilding w*nking ranting tangents about Slur Alex or the Special Needs One will make me think otherwise. You go on about it being about results, sorry I mean RESULTS. Well we arent getting them at the sharp end are we but more importantly the good performances we put up at the likes of Chelsea and Old Traffors are looking like distant memories - and thats a worry On the day Southampton were beatable and after a ten minute or so flurry at the start we simply allowed them to play their way in to the game and pretty much exert no energy staying in it and staying ahead. Its not about matching them for 'quality' as I said if you could be bothered to read it - man for man they are far better but to essentially give them such a comfortable afternoon through a combination of a) players just not playing and b) Setting up so we just cede 80 odd yards of pitch to them in the hope we win the ball, hoof it in Glenn Murrays general direction in the hope something happens off the back of it is not tactical genius....one shot on goal in anger and one Bolassie run which should have been a red in 90 minutes was the sum total of our attacking threat and that wasnt down to Southampton being better on the day - It was down to us Edited by The Sash (10 Mar 2014 1.00pm) Well done - good reply. Just to remind you again - forgetting statistics, we lost 1-0 to a mistake. Just saying
We had one shot, straight into the keepers middle - they not only scored but hit a post and had a free kick scrape just over and they did that playing largely lethargically and comfortably, Jules also pulled off a 'worldy' not knowing the flag was up for offside They had no need to chase or quicken the game and dare I say it probably saw that we were so deep they knew they didnt need to break a sweat to hold on. Whichever way you cut it Pulis and the players got it monumentally wrong on Saturday - forget the goal, tactically it was not what was required on the day And where is the guarantee they would not have gone on to make a mistake of their own and we'd won 1 0? If your auntie had bollox she'd be you uncle!
Edited by The Sash (11 Mar 2014 12.02pm)
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