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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 16 Feb 14 1.29pm
Cannot understand why some are getting so personal and questioning the sanity of others over this issue. It's so obviouse. The only people who knew about the conditions in the area around Goodison were those up there during the day. Not only did they SEE the tiles and branches flying about, they also knew that there was more and worse to come. You can't blame the met office or the wind for going in that direction. But you can blame those who knew it was happening and had been told it was going to get worse for not going outside, looking about and then deciding to tell people miles away...ok, it's alright, do come. That's not the fault of the weather as some suggest. And to think these people actually thought they could be responsible for the safety of those they were inviting into a gale...talk about the mothers of fools! A big appology is expected.
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 16 Feb 14 1.29pm

Cannot understand why some are getting so personal and questioning the sanity of others over this issue. It's so obviouse. The only people who knew about the conditions in the area around Goodison were those up there during the day. Not only did they SEE the tiles and branches flying about, they also knew that there was more and worse to come. You can't blame the met office or the wind for going in that direction. But you can blame those who knew it was happening and had been told it was going to get worse for not going outside, looking about and then deciding to tell people miles away...ok, it's alright, do come. That's not the fault of the weather as some suggest. And to think these people actually thought they could be responsible for the safety of those they were inviting into a gale...talk about the mothers of fools! A big appology is expected.

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est1905 16 Feb 14 3.35pm
Quote Suffolkcp at 15 Feb 2014 8.14am Quote est1905 at 14 Feb 2014 6.52pm Quote Suffolkcp at 12 Feb 2014 9.34pm Quote Ljb at 12 Feb 2014 9.32pm Not the football club's fault! Still good pr to though Good PR to apologise for something that is not your fault? Really? Ok then. Do you run a business? Yes, four actually. Your point?
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Suffolkcp Bury st edmunds 16 Feb 14 4.17pm
Quote est1905 at 16 Feb 2014 3.35pm Quote Suffolkcp at 15 Feb 2014 8.14am Quote est1905 at 14 Feb 2014 6.52pm Quote Suffolkcp at 12 Feb 2014 9.34pm Quote Ljb at 12 Feb 2014 9.32pm Not the football club's fault! Still good pr to though Good PR to apologise for something that is not your fault? Really? Ok then. Do you run a business? Yes, four actually. Your point? My point is that good PR is vital to most businesses if you don't agree ask yourself why DID Everton apologise? With you being someone who runs 4 businesses i accept you are clearly a better business man than myself who only runs one and apologise to you if I've been nieve in my thinking. I meant no offence.
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Bury st edmunds 16 Feb 14 4.17pm

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Quote Ljb at 12 Feb 2014 9.32pm

Not the football club's fault!

Still good pr to though

Good PR to apologise for something that is not your fault? Really?
Ok then.

Do you run a business?

Yes, four actually. Your point?

My point is that good PR is vital to most businesses if you don't agree ask yourself why DID Everton apologise? With you being someone who runs 4 businesses i accept you are clearly a better business man than myself who only runs one and apologise to you if I've been nieve in my thinking. I meant no offence.

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jake5 Carshalton 16 Feb 14 4.49pm
Not sure if they've done it yet , but good pr would be to offer anyone who can't make the rearranged game a full,refund . 50/50 whether I travel back up there , liver might not take another night away (assuming it's midweek again!)
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Carshalton 16 Feb 14 4.49pm

Not sure if they've done it yet , but good pr would be to offer anyone who can't make the rearranged game a full,refund . 50/50 whether I travel back up there , liver might not take another night away (assuming it's midweek again!)

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est1905 16 Feb 14 5.35pm
Quote Suffolkcp at 16 Feb 2014 4.17pm Quote est1905 at 16 Feb 2014 3.35pm Quote Suffolkcp at 15 Feb 2014 8.14am Quote est1905 at 14 Feb 2014 6.52pm Quote Suffolkcp at 12 Feb 2014 9.34pm Quote Ljb at 12 Feb 2014 9.32pm Not the football club's fault! Still good pr to though Good PR to apologise for something that is not your fault? Really? Ok then. Do you run a business? Yes, four actually. Your point? My point is that good PR is vital to most businesses if you don't agree ask yourself why DID Everton apologise? With you being someone who runs 4 businesses i accept you are clearly a better business man than myself who only runs one and apologise to you if I've been nieve in my thinking. I meant no offence. I'm sure you didn't mean any offence, none was taken. Its a double edged sword really. Apologise for something that is not your fault/responsibility and yes it can be seen that you are showing high regard/concern for the injured party. It can also make you appear a needy creep that is desperate not to upset anyone at any cost and that can therefore have a negative effect in the future. It comes down to personal preference. If something directly affected someone as a result of me/my business(es) then I would apologise unreservedly. If I was not directly at fault I could (and probably would) show all the sympathy in the world without apologising. Worst case scenario apologising can be seen as accepting responsibility. Next they'll be wanting compensation!
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16 Feb 14 5.35pm

Quote Suffolkcp at 16 Feb 2014 4.17pm

Quote est1905 at 16 Feb 2014 3.35pm

Quote Suffolkcp at 15 Feb 2014 8.14am

Quote est1905 at 14 Feb 2014 6.52pm

Quote Suffolkcp at 12 Feb 2014 9.34pm

Quote Ljb at 12 Feb 2014 9.32pm

Not the football club's fault!

Still good pr to though

Good PR to apologise for something that is not your fault? Really?
Ok then.

Do you run a business?

Yes, four actually. Your point?

I'm sure you didn't mean any offence, none was taken. Its a double edged sword really. Apologise for something that is not your fault/responsibility and yes it can be seen that you are showing high regard/concern for the injured party. It can also make you appear a needy creep that is desperate not to upset anyone at any cost and that can therefore have a negative effect in the future.
It comes down to personal preference. If something directly affected someone as a result of me/my business(es) then I would apologise unreservedly. If I was not directly at fault I could (and probably would) show all the sympathy in the world without apologising. Worst case scenario apologising can be seen as accepting responsibility. Next they'll be wanting compensation!

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Bill Glazier Mitcham 16 Feb 14 6.14pm
Quote jake5 at 16 Feb 2014 4.49pm Not sure if they've done it yet , but good pr would be to offer anyone who can't make the rearranged game a full,refund . 50/50 whether I travel back up there , liver might not take another night away (assuming it's midweek again!) You will be able to get a full refund. It will be midweek.
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Bill Glazier

Mitcham 16 Feb 14 6.14pm

Quote jake5 at 16 Feb 2014 4.49pm

Not sure if they've done it yet , but good pr would be to offer anyone who can't make the rearranged game a full,refund . 50/50 whether I travel back up there , liver might not take another night away (assuming it's midweek again!)

You will be able to get a full refund.
It will be midweek.

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Dan Theolmesdaleroad Up north 16 Feb 14 6.51pm
It would appear from the wording of the apology that the club did indeed have the power to postpone the fixture, without any prompting from the FA, the Police, or anyone else. My own feeling is that they should apologise, not for postponing the game, but for not postponing it much sooner than they did (i.e. when the Red Warning was announced some seven hours earlier). While it is commendable that the Everton CEO has issued an apology, it is rather unclear whether it is for the postponement of the match or the lateness of the decision to postpone it. The unreasonable delay in calling off the match is surely the club's fault. Edited by Dan Theolmesdaleroad (16 Feb 2014 6.54pm)
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It would appear from the wording of the apology that the club did indeed have the power to postpone the fixture, without any prompting from the FA, the Police, or anyone else.

My own feeling is that they should apologise, not for postponing the game, but for not postponing it much sooner than they did (i.e. when the Red Warning was announced some seven hours earlier). While it is commendable that the Everton CEO has issued an apology, it is rather unclear whether it is for the postponement of the match or the lateness of the decision to postpone it. The unreasonable delay in calling off the match is surely the club's fault.

Edited by Dan Theolmesdaleroad (16 Feb 2014 6.54pm)

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frazzle 16 Feb 14 7.23pm
Does this even matter now? The game was called off, nothing we can do, so why continue to debate it?
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16 Feb 14 7.23pm

Does this even matter now? The game was called off, nothing we can do, so why continue to debate it?

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 17 Feb 14 10.37pm
Quote frazzle at 16 Feb 2014 7.23pm Does this even matter now? The game was called off, nothing we can do, so why continue to debate it? Because those who went could or should get some financial recompense. By going away we will not see a chance of this happening. A good enough reason to continue this thread, if you care, that is.
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 17 Feb 14 10.37pm

Quote frazzle at 16 Feb 2014 7.23pm

Does this even matter now? The game was called off, nothing we can do, so why continue to debate it?

Because those who went could or should get some financial recompense. By going away we will not see a chance of this happening. A good enough reason to continue this thread, if you care, that is.

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frazzle 18 Feb 14 9.52pm
Quote adrian b at 17 Feb 2014 10.37pm Quote frazzle at 16 Feb 2014 7.23pm Does this even matter now? The game was called off, nothing we can do, so why continue to debate it? Because those who went could or should get some financial recompense. By going away we will not see a chance of this happening. A good enough reason to continue this thread, if you care, that is. I agree that it is unfortunate for those people, but they should take it up with the club, they won't get a refund from here. The majority of this thread is about why the game was called off, but the fact is it was, so what else can we do?.
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frazzle

18 Feb 14 9.52pm

Quote adrian b at 17 Feb 2014 10.37pm

Quote frazzle at 16 Feb 2014 7.23pm

Does this even matter now? The game was called off, nothing we can do, so why continue to debate it?

Because those who went could or should get some financial recompense. By going away we will not see a chance of this happening. A good enough reason to continue this thread, if you care, that is.

I agree that it is unfortunate for those people, but they should take it up with the club, they won't get a refund from here. The majority of this thread is about why the game was called off, but the fact is it was, so what else can we do?.

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adrian b Landrindod, Wales 19 Feb 14 12.10pm
Quote frazzle at 18 Feb 2014 9.52pm Quote adrian b at 17 Feb 2014 10.37pm Quote frazzle at 16 Feb 2014 7.23pm Does this even matter now? The game was called off, nothing we can do, so why continue to debate it? Because those who went could or should get some financial recompense. By going away we will not see a chance of this happening. A good enough reason to continue this thread, if you care, that is. I agree that it is unfortunate for those people, but they should take it up with the club, they won't get a refund from here. The majority of this thread is about why the game was called off, but the fact is it was, so what else can we do?. What else can we do? Why, keep the pressure on by making reasonable points that will harden the resolve of those who wasted their time in Liverpool just because a few irresponsible people lacked the commonsense to do the obvious and should be shamed to pay up. Anything we can say to add to that sahme, apart from, 'oh, what can we do anyway?'
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adrian b

Landrindod, Wales 19 Feb 14 12.10pm

Quote frazzle at 18 Feb 2014 9.52pm

Quote adrian b at 17 Feb 2014 10.37pm

Quote frazzle at 16 Feb 2014 7.23pm

Does this even matter now? The game was called off, nothing we can do, so why continue to debate it?

Because those who went could or should get some financial recompense. By going away we will not see a chance of this happening. A good enough reason to continue this thread, if you care, that is.

What else can we do? Why, keep the pressure on by making reasonable points that will harden the resolve of those who wasted their time in Liverpool just because a few irresponsible people lacked the commonsense to do the obvious and should be shamed to pay up. Anything we can say to add to that sahme, apart from, 'oh, what can we do anyway?'

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blind eagle Covington.Tennessee 19 Feb 14 10.40pm
Quote Welling Eagle at 12 Feb 2014 9.38pm Quote Ljb at 12 Feb 2014 9.32pm Not the football club's fault! I disagree with you there. They could have called it off a lot earlier! Of course they could have !. They must be a pretty sleepy bunch at Goodison Park. I suppose you get use to bad weather in Lancashire1.
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Covington.Tennessee 19 Feb 14 10.40pm

Quote Welling Eagle at 12 Feb 2014 9.38pm

Quote Ljb at 12 Feb 2014 9.32pm

Not the football club's fault!

I disagree with you there. They could have called it off a lot earlier!

Of course they could have !. They must be a pretty sleepy bunch at Goodison Park. I suppose you get use to bad weather in Lancashire1.

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