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Mangopablo south LONDON 03 Feb 14 5.45pm
Quote cornwalls palace at 02 Feb 2014 3.39pm Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 3.32pm Quote FinchleyEagle at 02 Feb 2014 1.16pm Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 1.30am Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 10.51pm Quote NickinOX at 01 Feb 2014 7.07pm Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 6.54pm Hmmm, not sure goals in Scotland count for much and Ince hasn't played in the Prem. Don't get me wrong not trying to bring a downer here, but I thought the one thing we needed in the window was a good striker, maybe like Jordan Rhodes but there wasn't even any chat about him which was strange I thought. So we'll improve, have a bit more depth and maybe a bit more of a threat - but we still don't have a proven premier league striker. Are my expectations too high ? I wonder if we tried to get anyone like that but couldn't make it happen... You call for a proven premier league striker, yet argue we should have gone for someone like Jordan Rhodes. Additionally, you discount Ince for not having played in the premier league: neither has Rhodes. Your logic makes no sense. There are a number of teams looking for a proven premier league striker: most have not found one. At least they have not found one who is even remotely reasonable value given the 7 million paid for a 1 in 4 strike rate by Hull. Edited by NickinOX (01 Feb 2014 7.08pm) Yeah fair point fella, didn't make too much sense did it !! I just meant a striker would have been nice and I do actually have this belief borne of no evidence whatsoever that Rhodes would bang them in... Use a sarcastic smiley all you want, but it doesn't hide the fact that your comments were illogical. And you're right, it didn't make sense. After all, you're the one who downplayed experience from outside the Premier League. Then you said you wanted us to bid for someone who's not proven there. There's also no evidence Rhodes would bang them in in the premier league as you imply. What you cite is evidence that he can bang them in in the championship. Not the same thing, is it! Erm, I think you should maybe read my last post a bit more carefully fella... Or what? ...ding ..ding..round 7, this is exactly how the 2nd world war started. I thought Hitler invaded Poland? "The course of true love never did run smooth"
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south LONDON 03 Feb 14 5.45pm

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Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 3.32pm

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Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 1.30am

Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 10.51pm

Quote NickinOX at 01 Feb 2014 7.07pm

Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 6.54pm

Hmmm, not sure goals in Scotland count for much and Ince hasn't played in the Prem.

Don't get me wrong not trying to bring a downer here, but I thought the one thing we needed in the window was a good striker, maybe like Jordan Rhodes but there wasn't even any chat about him which was strange I thought.

So we'll improve, have a bit more depth and maybe a bit more of a threat - but we still don't have a proven premier league striker. Are my expectations too high ? I wonder if we tried to get anyone like that but couldn't make it happen...

You call for a proven premier league striker, yet argue we should have gone for someone like Jordan Rhodes. Additionally, you discount Ince for not having played in the premier league: neither has Rhodes. Your logic makes no sense.

There are a number of teams looking for a proven premier league striker: most have not found one. At least they have not found one who is even remotely reasonable value given the 7 million paid for a 1 in 4 strike rate by Hull.

Edited by NickinOX (01 Feb 2014 7.08pm)

Yeah fair point fella, didn't make too much sense did it !! I just meant a striker would have been nice and I do actually have this belief borne of no evidence whatsoever that Rhodes would bang them in...

Use a sarcastic smiley all you want, but it doesn't hide the fact that your comments were illogical. And you're right, it didn't make sense. After all, you're the one who downplayed experience from outside the Premier League. Then you said you wanted us to bid for someone who's not proven there.

There's also no evidence Rhodes would bang them in in the premier league as you imply. What you cite is evidence that he can bang them in in the championship. Not the same thing, is it!

Erm, I think you should maybe read my last post a bit more carefully fella...

Or what?

...ding ..ding..round 7, this is exactly how the 2nd world war started.

I thought Hitler invaded Poland?

"The course of true love never did run smooth"

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NickinOX Sailing country. 03 Feb 14 8.20pm
Quote FinchleyEagle at 03 Feb 2014 3.42pm Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 3.37pm Quote moylerg at 02 Feb 2014 3.35pm Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 3.32pm Quote FinchleyEagle at 02 Feb 2014 1.16pm Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 1.30am Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 10.51pm Quote NickinOX at 01 Feb 2014 7.07pm Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 6.54pm Hmmm, not sure goals in Scotland count for much and Ince hasn't played in the Prem. Don't get me wrong not trying to bring a downer here, but I thought the one thing we needed in the window was a good striker, maybe like Jordan Rhodes but there wasn't even any chat about him which was strange I thought. So we'll improve, have a bit more depth and maybe a bit more of a threat - but we still don't have a proven premier league striker. Are my expectations too high ? I wonder if we tried to get anyone like that but couldn't make it happen... You call for a proven premier league striker, yet argue we should have gone for someone like Jordan Rhodes. Additionally, you discount Ince for not having played in the premier league: neither has Rhodes. Your logic makes no sense. There are a number of teams looking for a proven premier league striker: most have not found one. At least they have not found one who is even remotely reasonable value given the 7 million paid for a 1 in 4 strike rate by Hull. Edited by NickinOX (01 Feb 2014 7.08pm) Yeah fair point fella, didn't make too much sense did it !! I just meant a striker would have been nice and I do actually have this belief borne of no evidence whatsoever that Rhodes would bang them in... Use a sarcastic smiley all you want, but it doesn't hide the fact that your comments were illogical. And you're right, it didn't make sense. After all, you're the one who downplayed experience from outside the Premier League. Then you said you wanted us to bid for someone who's not proven there. There's also no evidence Rhodes would bang them in in the premier league as you imply. What you cite is evidence that he can bang them in in the championship. Not the same thing, is it! Erm, I think you should maybe read my last post a bit more carefully fella... Or what? My word, that escalated quickly! I know. Getting threatened over the internet for pointing out illogicality. Where will it end. Edited by NickinOX (02 Feb 2014 3.47pm) Oh my this IS exciting. A genuine GENUINE keyboard warrior is being all aggressive at me ! From 6000 miles away ! Brilliant ! So tell me NickinOX I presume you are an exiled englishman otherwise why would you support Palace ? But that does seem strange that you feel 'threatened'. However if you are American and really have no grasp of irony or sarcasm (as the stereotype goes) then that makes it more understandable. I could just tell you to jog on, ignore your frankly insanely aggressive posts, or (my preferred option) explain where you have gone wrong in a really rather patronising way. So here goes (presuming youve read this far if you're foaming at the mouth hasnt got the better of you)... I began this little interchange by saying a proven premier league striker is what we wanted and suggested Jordan Rhodes. You pointed out my logic made no sense. Which it didnt. I agreed with you and said I just believed Rhodes would bang them in, and in what I considered to be a jocular moment of self deprecation, added that this was 'borne of no evidence whatsoever' and raised an eyebrow at myself for a) making no sense and b) further having an opinion based on no evidence. After all its not like Im a religious man. You (rather bizarrely I thought) continued to make the same point I'd already agreed with, in a somewhat confrontational manner. To which I thought that you must have mis-read what I said and suggested you should maybe read it a bit more carefully. At which point, no doubt with steam coming out of your ears and shouting at the computer, you replied with the extremely surprising 'or what ?' which I havent actually replied to. So allow me to answer that.. 'or you wont understand the conversation properly' And then you think you have been threatened although I cant for the life of me see where... but dont worry Nick, just because you're paranoid doesnt mean they're NOT all out to get you. Maybe a few less coffees / prescription drugs / alcohol / skunk might help you to calm down a bit... Lots of love, FinchleyEagle Edited by FinchleyEagle (03 Feb 2014 3.45pm) First, where on earth was I insanely aggressive? Second, I've not been abusive either. To be honest, I certainly didn't feel threatened. I just thought the way you wrote it implied a threat, and I found that rather bemusing. From what you and Seth explained, I misunderstood your intent. For that, I'm sorry. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 03 Feb 14 8.20pm

Quote FinchleyEagle at 03 Feb 2014 3.42pm

Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 3.37pm

Quote moylerg at 02 Feb 2014 3.35pm

Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 3.32pm

Quote FinchleyEagle at 02 Feb 2014 1.16pm

Quote NickinOX at 02 Feb 2014 1.30am

Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 10.51pm

Quote NickinOX at 01 Feb 2014 7.07pm

Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 6.54pm

Hmmm, not sure goals in Scotland count for much and Ince hasn't played in the Prem.

Edited by NickinOX (01 Feb 2014 7.08pm)

There's also no evidence Rhodes would bang them in in the premier league as you imply. What you cite is evidence that he can bang them in in the championship. Not the same thing, is it!

Erm, I think you should maybe read my last post a bit more carefully fella...

Or what?

My word, that escalated quickly!

I know. Getting threatened over the internet for pointing out illogicality. Where will it end.

Edited by NickinOX (02 Feb 2014 3.47pm)

Oh my this IS exciting. A genuine GENUINE keyboard warrior is being all aggressive at me ! From 6000 miles away ! Brilliant !

So tell me NickinOX I presume you are an exiled englishman otherwise why would you support Palace ? But that does seem strange that you feel 'threatened'. However if you are American and really have no grasp of irony or sarcasm (as the stereotype goes) then that makes it more understandable.

I could just tell you to jog on, ignore your frankly insanely aggressive posts, or (my preferred option) explain where you have gone wrong in a really rather patronising way. So here goes (presuming youve read this far if you're foaming at the mouth hasnt got the better of you)...

I began this little interchange by saying a proven premier league striker is what we wanted and suggested Jordan Rhodes.

You pointed out my logic made no sense. Which it didnt.

I agreed with you and said I just believed Rhodes would bang them in, and in what I considered to be a jocular moment of self deprecation, added that this was 'borne of no evidence whatsoever' and raised an eyebrow at myself for a) making no sense and b) further having an opinion based on no evidence. After all its not like Im a religious man.

You (rather bizarrely I thought) continued to make the same point I'd already agreed with, in a somewhat confrontational manner.

To which I thought that you must have mis-read what I said and suggested you should maybe read it a bit more carefully.

At which point, no doubt with steam coming out of your ears and shouting at the computer, you replied with the extremely surprising 'or what ?' which I havent actually replied to. So allow me to answer that.. 'or you wont understand the conversation properly'

And then you think you have been threatened although I cant for the life of me see where... but dont worry Nick, just because you're paranoid doesnt mean they're NOT all out to get you. Maybe a few less coffees / prescription drugs / alcohol / skunk might help you to calm down a bit...

Lots of love, FinchleyEagle

Edited by FinchleyEagle (03 Feb 2014 3.45pm)

First, where on earth was I insanely aggressive? Second, I've not been abusive either.

To be honest, I certainly didn't feel threatened. I just thought the way you wrote it implied a threat, and I found that rather bemusing.

From what you and Seth explained, I misunderstood your intent. For that, I'm sorry.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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LeBoeuf Bermondsey 03 Feb 14 10.26pm
Quote The Sash at 03 Feb 2014 3.50pm Getting back on point...dont know is the answer and the only downer for me was the lack of a forward in the window so I am hoping Glenn Murray is a lot further down the line for fitness than we know. Obviously unproven at this level but to be fair he has been unproven at each level he has moved up into and passed with flying colours each time. If Lambert, Lallana, Rodriguez et al have adjusted then so can GM - he canm finish which puts him a few rungs up the ladder from Jerome Being out so long with such a serious injury does worry me as it will take him time to atune again to football, let alone the rarified atmosphere of the 'best league in the world' (copyright Sky) Heres hoping he comes through unscathed tonights run out and comes on for the last ten against the BAggies this weekend and nets a couple in our 5-0 win I'm not sure where goals will come from either. Would be a dream if muzza could pick up from where he left off. Its a massive IF tho, after such an injury obviously. But when he does come back, wouldnt the system have to be tweaked for him? Jerome isnt good we know, but hes quicker than murray, and runs the channels well if nothing else. Murray needs to be in and around the box. When glenn first came, he took a got a bit of stick. Really cos the system wasnt playing to his strengths. That changed the next season, and hey presto - 30 goals. Think we needed a striker in the window, and being an ever pessimist, this is where we could come up short. Always as ever tho, im happy to eat a slice of humble pie, if im wrong. a rich man is only a poor man with an obscene amount of money
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Quote The Sash at 03 Feb 2014 3.50pm

Getting back on point...dont know is the answer and the only downer for me was the lack of a forward in the window so I am hoping Glenn Murray is a lot further down the line for fitness than we know.

Obviously unproven at this level but to be fair he has been unproven at each level he has moved up into and passed with flying colours each time. If Lambert, Lallana, Rodriguez et al have adjusted then so can GM - he canm finish which puts him a few rungs up the ladder from Jerome

Being out so long with such a serious injury does worry me as it will take him time to atune again to football, let alone the rarified atmosphere of the 'best league in the world' (copyright Sky)

Heres hoping he comes through unscathed tonights run out and comes on for the last ten against the BAggies this weekend and nets a couple in our 5-0 win

I'm not sure where goals will come from either.
Would be a dream if muzza could pick up from where he left off. Its a massive IF tho, after such an injury obviously.
But when he does come back, wouldnt the system have to be tweaked for him? Jerome isnt good we know, but hes quicker than murray, and runs the channels well if nothing else. Murray needs to be in and around the box. When glenn first came, he took a got a bit of stick. Really cos the system wasnt playing to his strengths. That changed the next season, and hey presto - 30 goals.
Think we needed a striker in the window, and being an ever pessimist, this is where we could come up short.
Always as ever tho, im happy to eat a slice of humble pie, if im wrong.

a rich man is only a poor man with an obscene amount of money

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Petereagle Brockley 04 Feb 14 12.36am
Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 6.54pm Hmmm, not sure goals in Scotland count for much and Ince hasn't played in the Prem. Don't get me wrong not trying to bring a downer here, but I thought the one thing we needed in the window was a good striker, maybe like Jordan Rhodes but there wasn't even any chat about him which was strange I thought. So we'll improve, have a bit more depth and maybe a bit more of a threat - but we still don't have a proven premier league striker. Are my expectations too high ? I wonder if we tried to get anyone like that but couldn't make it happen... I don't think the transfer budget could have supported bringing in a good striker plus strengthening the spine of the team (which we did achieve) if we stay up, that's obviously the next priority. On a more hopeful note, maybe Murray is already showing decent form in his recovery, and So we already have a new signing as it were waiting in the wings?
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Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 6.54pm

Hmmm, not sure goals in Scotland count for much and Ince hasn't played in the Prem.

I don't think the transfer budget could have supported bringing in a good striker plus strengthening the spine of the team (which we did achieve) if we stay up, that's obviously the next priority. On a more hopeful note, maybe Murray is already showing decent form in his recovery, and So we already have a new signing as it were waiting in the wings?

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Petereagle Brockley 04 Feb 14 12.42am
Quote Petereagle at 04 Feb 2014 12.36am Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 6.54pm Hmmm, not sure goals in Scotland count for much and Ince hasn't played in the Prem. Don't get me wrong not trying to bring a downer here, but I thought the one thing we needed in the window was a good striker, maybe like Jordan Rhodes but there wasn't even any chat about him which was strange I thought. So we'll improve, have a bit more depth and maybe a bit more of a threat - but we still don't have a proven premier league striker. Are my expectations too high ? I wonder if we tried to get anyone like that but couldn't make it happen... I don't think the transfer budget could have supported bringing in a good striker plus strengthening the spine of the team (which we did achieve) if we stay up, that's obviously the next priority. On a more hopeful note, maybe Murray is already showing decent form in his recovery, and So we already have a new signing as it were waiting in the wings? In the championship, Ince had one of the highest assist rates, so hopefully Chamakh will benefit from scoring more from more chances
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Quote Petereagle at 04 Feb 2014 12.36am

Quote FinchleyEagle at 01 Feb 2014 6.54pm

Hmmm, not sure goals in Scotland count for much and Ince hasn't played in the Prem.

In the championship, Ince had one of the highest assist rates, so hopefully Chamakh will benefit from scoring more from more chances

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sprites Auckland 04 Feb 14 1.11am
Gayle proved at Villa he's got the goods. Should have replaced Jerome immediately after that. I reckon he'd have scored another 2 or 3 since then too.
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Gayle proved at Villa he's got the goods. Should have replaced Jerome immediately after that.

I reckon he'd have scored another 2 or 3 since then too.

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NickinOX Sailing country. 04 Feb 14 1.46am
Quote sprites at 04 Feb 2014 1.11am Gayle proved at Villa he's got the goods. Should have replaced Jerome immediately after that. I reckon he'd have scored another 2 or 3 since then too. I certainly would like to see him come on more often. He seems to have a real spark about him. I think that with the new signings he could be a real handful coming off the bench. If you come to a fork in the road, take it.
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Sailing country. 04 Feb 14 1.46am

Quote sprites at 04 Feb 2014 1.11am

Gayle proved at Villa he's got the goods. Should have replaced Jerome immediately after that.

I reckon he'd have scored another 2 or 3 since then too.

I certainly would like to see him come on more often. He seems to have a real spark about him.

I think that with the new signings he could be a real handful coming off the bench.

If you come to a fork in the road, take it.

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