How do people think this situation is going to proceed?

It feels very much like we are in the year before the Iraq war where the US press were full of stories preparing people for war with Iraq......No one ever suffered a consequence for that by the way...all memory holed because essentially the stories were all fed to that media by their state security and intelligence services.

But to be honest I'm not really seeing how Israel or America proceed successfully against Iran.

They can't invade it....they would need a massive land invasion and quite frankly outside of their elite units, due to several reasons, the US army is a shadow of the one which was sent to Iraq.....and obviously the US public just wouldn't accept losing troops.

So you're talking about bombing Iran.....which isn't going to do much other than increase tensions. Militarily you'd have to nuke Iran and quite obviously that would be beyond inhuman.

Maybe the plan is....bomb Iran conventionally, which will finally get Hezbollah to invade or they invade Lebanon with massive American aerial involvement (they can't beat them on their own without it being existential) Would it get to American troops going to Israel/Lebanon fighting and effectively Israel taking Lebanon again and allowing them to finish off in Gaza?

But even as I type that it seems wildly unrealistic. To be honest it's hard to work out what the thinking is.

Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Aug 2024 1.21pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

fights for Oil.

fights over Religion.

other .....

All a nightmare really. The US & Israel seem to have already united the entire muslim World against them. Biden has been a disaster compared to Trump.

Trump did a good deal with Morocco to recognise Israel. And generally Trump preferred carrot to stick.

Saudi is the puppet State of the yanks. And hence its legendary brutality and hardline religion mask. Iran hates Saudi and would love to topple it. The Arab Spring has show all of the frailties within any State.

the favoured weapon of little countries ? terrorism.

can the US survive a few more 9/11's ? maybe, but its will to fight may diminish.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (06 Aug 2024 1.31pm)

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Yeah, but if America bomb Iran, they can only destroy the above ground infrastructure and Iran have quite a lot of their important stuff under mountains (as does the US).

Russia are now involved in Iran, with one of their former generals over there as we speak, and no doubt they are giving them missile technologies.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yep, from the American/Israel perspective a regime change is by far the most effective route.....but Iran's leaders aren't stupid and have the education, media and election system on lockdown there.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

It could be the beginning of the end, depending of the quality of Iran's artillery, anything approaching a nuclear attack and the domino effect will start, just as we are getting a decent side too, bugger

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Is there a large population in Iran prepared to fight in the interests of America or Israel?.....I don't know.

They are certainly concerned about their economy and don't like their leaders.

From the Israel/American side that would certainly be their best outcome.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)