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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 25 Jul 24 1.34pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

It’s good to know that constructive criticism of government policy is alive and well here and we don’t see comments reminiscent of the 4th form!

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Jul 24 9.37am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

The tax is coming folks.

Labour's transparent excuses will not hide what we all know.

Tax and spend, stupid pay rises for the public sector, and all the usual Labour stuff.

Same old Labour. People never learn.

It will be scandalous if they increase inheritance tax.

Generational wealth stolen by a party who claims to be about fairness?

 

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The Dolphin Flag 26 Jul 24 11.17am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Rachel Reeves - shock horror - there is a £20billion/year black hole to be able to do what THEY want to do - taxes will have to rise but blame those useless Tories.
That record is already being overplayed.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 26 Jul 24 11.33am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The tax is coming folks.

Labour's transparent excuses will not hide what we all know.

Tax and spend, stupid pay rises for the public sector, and all the usual Labour stuff.

Same old Labour. People never learn.

It will be scandalous if they increase inheritance tax.

Generational wealth stolen by a party who claims to be about fairness?

As I said to you the other day; the options we have are to bring in more taxpayers or for the existing population to pay more tax - being completely opposed to both isn't a realistic position.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 Jul 24 12.16pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Rachel Reeves - shock horror - there is a £20billion/year black hole to be able to do what THEY want to do - taxes will have to rise but blame those useless Tories.
That record is already being overplayed.

I think that is the point. They have taken the existing deficit and then added in what they have promised the voters to do and surprise surprise the numbers don't add as as all the experts predicted before the GE.

Frankly they have conned the voters. I would have had more respect for Labour if they had made this clear during the election.

"I'm, shocked shocked that there is gambling in this place" (Casablanca)

Edited by Badger11 (26 Jul 2024 12.17pm)

 


One more point

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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 26 Jul 24 12.23pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

The Govt needs to stop blaming the previous govt now, they had access to the books months ago. They are not in opposition anymore and are expected to find solutions.

A blind man could see the manifesto " costed " funding was inadequate.

Example 1, the money required to settle the doctors strike which was not included

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 26 Jul 24 12.27pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

As I said to you the other day; the options we have are to bring in more taxpayers or for the existing population to pay more tax - being completely opposed to both isn't a realistic position.

Government spending should be extensively cut - as should taxes.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 26 Jul 24 12.29pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Government spending should be extensively cut - as should taxes.

Even if that is your view, that's a transition that would take considerable time and something would have to give in the interim.

You can't just turn off the tap tomorrow.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 26 Jul 24 12.36pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Even if that is your view, that's a transition that would take considerable time and something would have to give in the interim.

You can't just turn off the tap tomorrow.

Most of the extra tax would be squandered in similar ways to existing tax. It's like giving whisky to an alcoholic (via a tap).

Edited by georgenorman (26 Jul 2024 12.37pm)

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Jul 24 12.49pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

As I said to you the other day; the options we have are to bring in more taxpayers or for the existing population to pay more tax - being completely opposed to both isn't a realistic position.

Except that Labour will tax to spend, not just to pay off debt.
As I suggested, it will be over inflation pay rises for the public sector and a whole load of unnecessary administration, just like always.
Add to that a huge increase in Council tax for wasteful labour boroughs to splurge money on unnecessary jobs and ridiculous schemes. Some suggest that they also have a habit of being corrupt.

 

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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 26 Jul 24 2.01pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Except that Labour will tax to spend, not just to pay off debt.
As I suggested, it will be over inflation pay rises for the public sector and a whole load of unnecessary administration, just like always.
Add to that a huge increase in Council tax for wasteful labour boroughs to splurge money on unnecessary jobs and ridiculous schemes. Some suggest that they also have a habit of being corrupt.

Because spending is needed, obviously.

We have the best part of a million vacancies in the public sector - you are opposed to immigration, opposed to any meaningful pay rises, opposed to any tax increases.

Just saying no to everything is not going to solve anything.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 26 Jul 24 2.21pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Because spending is needed, obviously.

We have the best part of a million vacancies in the public sector - you are opposed to immigration, opposed to any meaningful pay rises, opposed to any tax increases.

Just saying no to everything is not going to solve anything.

So you think that the number of migrants arriving here are necessary and acceptable?

Funny because many of them seem to be claiming benefits and or running their own tax avoiding businesses.

There is selective immigration and what we have.

 

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