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Stirlingsays 24 Jul 24 1.42pm
So far Yvette Cooper’s main contribution as Home Secretary seems to be her going around telling everybody how shocked she is at the Harehills riots and stabbings. I'm shocked anyone ever gave that bint an important job. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

24 Jul 24 1.42pm

So far Yvette Cooper’s main contribution as Home Secretary seems to be her going around telling everybody how shocked she is at the Harehills riots and stabbings. I'm shocked anyone ever gave that bint an important job.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Jul 24 1.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays So far Yvette Cooper’s main contribution as Home Secretary seems to be her going around telling everybody how shocked she is at the Harehills riots and stabbings. I'm shocked anyone ever gave that bint an important job. What do you expect from a detached from reality politician? Not an ounce of common sense between them.
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24 Jul 24 1.46pm

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

What do you expect from a detached from reality politician?

Not an ounce of common sense between them.

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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Jul 24 2.42pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I don't think anyone wants child poverty but remember, it is relative poverty. I don't think the current situation of two parents working and still not being able to afford a decent standard of living is acceptable. It is not sensible for businesses to survive only by paying people rubbish wages and creating awful working conditions. Let them go out of business. It is not right that it often doesnt pay to work. People need a better mechanism and encouragement that alows them to move from unemployment and dependency on benefits to a decent job. Pay and conditions play a big part. Who wants to get paid noting and get treated badly for their trouble? Aside from that, people need to manage their money better. How many smoke? Drink too much? Gamble? Eat takeaway three times a week? Their kids need to come first. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Jul 2024 1.42pm) I strongly agree with the middle section of your post. I think the comment re relative poverty is fairly unhelpful - relative or not, the societal consequences of kids growing up poor are well known, and clearly something not to be pursued. I think the last paragraph is too reliant on stereotype - the reality is, we have little to no idea.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't think anyone wants child poverty but remember, it is relative poverty.

I don't think the current situation of two parents working and still not being able to afford a decent standard of living is acceptable.

It is not sensible for businesses to survive only by paying people rubbish wages and creating awful working conditions. Let them go out of business.
It is not right that it often doesnt pay to work.
People need a better mechanism and encouragement that alows them to move from unemployment and dependency on benefits to a decent job.
Pay and conditions play a big part. Who wants to get paid noting and get treated badly for their trouble?

Aside from that, people need to manage their money better. How many smoke? Drink too much? Gamble? Eat takeaway three times a week? Their kids need to come first.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (24 Jul 2024 1.42pm)

I strongly agree with the middle section of your post.

I think the comment re relative poverty is fairly unhelpful - relative or not, the societal consequences of kids growing up poor are well known, and clearly something not to be pursued.

I think the last paragraph is too reliant on stereotype - the reality is, we have little to no idea.

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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Jul 24 4.15pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow I strongly agree with the middle section of your post. I think the comment re relative poverty is fairly unhelpful - relative or not, the societal consequences of kids growing up poor are well known, and clearly something not to be pursued. I think the last paragraph is too reliant on stereotype - the reality is, we have little to no idea. Well, it IS relative poverty. It cannot be compared to the poorest in global terms, or indeed historically. Given that, it is still not acceptable that one of the world's richest countries still has people who don't have a good standard of living. Despite the unfortunate limitations of our capitalistic society, people still need to help themselves by making better choices.
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Hrolf The Ganger

24 Jul 24 4.15pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I strongly agree with the middle section of your post.

I think the comment re relative poverty is fairly unhelpful - relative or not, the societal consequences of kids growing up poor are well known, and clearly something not to be pursued.

I think the last paragraph is too reliant on stereotype - the reality is, we have little to no idea.

Well, it IS relative poverty. It cannot be compared to the poorest in global terms, or indeed historically.

Given that, it is still not acceptable that one of the world's richest countries still has people who don't have a good standard of living.
Despite the unfortunate limitations of our capitalistic society, people still need to help themselves by making better choices.

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steeleye20 Croydon 24 Jul 24 5.22pm
Didn't you say that 10 billions had been earmarked for Rwanda Sir Keir? Well as it is terminated you can 'earmark' 1.3 billions of it for poor children, can't you? Fell at the first fence. Reeves and Starmer need to reconsider what socialism is and what the labour party is supposed to represent, not austerity and banking. The rebels are actually probably quite glad to get away from Stalin, the trend is to independents and they could well be re-elected.
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Croydon 24 Jul 24 5.22pm

Didn't you say that 10 billions had been earmarked for Rwanda Sir Keir?

Well as it is terminated you can 'earmark' 1.3 billions of it for poor children, can't you?

Fell at the first fence.

Reeves and Starmer need to reconsider what socialism is and what the labour party is supposed to represent, not austerity and banking.

The rebels are actually probably quite glad to get away from Stalin, the trend is to independents and they could well be re-elected.

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 24 Jul 24 5.27pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Didn't you say that 10 billions had been earmarked for Rwanda Sir Keir? Well as it is terminated you can 'earmark' 1.3 billions of it for poor children, can't you? Fell at the first fence. Reeves and Starmer need to reconsider what socialism is and what the labour party is supposed to represent, not austerity and banking. The rebels are actually probably quite glad to get away from Stalin, the trend is to independents and they could well be re-elected. I know what you mean, that’s why I never had a problem with Corbyn, as he was trying to take Labour back to their original principles. The middle ground was already overcrowded so socialism in its natural state was the correct way to go for him. hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Sussex 24 Jul 24 5.27pm

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Originally posted by steeleye20

Didn't you say that 10 billions had been earmarked for Rwanda Sir Keir?

Well as it is terminated you can 'earmark' 1.3 billions of it for poor children, can't you?

Fell at the first fence.

Reeves and Starmer need to reconsider what socialism is and what the labour party is supposed to represent, not austerity and banking.

The rebels are actually probably quite glad to get away from Stalin, the trend is to independents and they could well be re-elected.

I know what you mean, that’s why I never had a problem with Corbyn, as he was trying to take Labour back to their original principles. The middle ground was already overcrowded so socialism in its natural state was the correct way to go for him.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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YT Oxford 24 Jul 24 5.32pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What do you expect from a detached from reality politician? Not an ounce of common sense between them. There is more than one Yvette Cooper? Jesus!! Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Oxford 24 Jul 24 5.32pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What do you expect from a detached from reality politician?

Not an ounce of common sense between them.

There is more than one Yvette Cooper? Jesus!!

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 24 Jul 24 5.41pm
Originally posted by YT There is more than one Yvette Cooper? Jesus!! Maybe, but I know there is a Mrs Ed Balls who sometimes gets mistaken for her😋 hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Sussex 24 Jul 24 5.41pm

Originally posted by YT

There is more than one Yvette Cooper? Jesus!!

Maybe, but I know there is a Mrs Ed Balls who sometimes gets mistaken for her😋

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Teddy Eagle 24 Jul 24 5.43pm
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines Maybe, but I know there is a Mrs Ed Balls who sometimes gets mistaken for her😋 And Yvette Balls is a funnier name too.
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Teddy Eagle

24 Jul 24 5.43pm

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

Maybe, but I know there is a Mrs Ed Balls who sometimes gets mistaken for her😋

And Yvette Balls is a funnier name too.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 25 Jul 24 12.51am
Good to see Starmer acting quickly on removing the whip from seven MPs, pure coincidence they are all SWG Corbynistas. Anyway, well done Starmer Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 25 Jul 24 12.51am

Good to see Starmer acting quickly on removing the whip from seven MPs, pure coincidence they are all SWG Corbynistas.

Anyway, well done Starmer

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 25 Jul 24 4.28am
Originally posted by HKOwen Good to see Starmer acting quickly on removing the whip from seven MPs, pure coincidence they are all SWG Corbynistas. Anyway, well done Starmer Especially when the opposition side of The House is near-empty and Starmer still acting with integrity. I disengage, I turn the page.
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