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PatrickA Flag London 21 Jul 24 1.47pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

I was thinking back to 11 or so months ago.

There was much optimism for the new season with the team finishing the previous season so well under Hodgson.

Edouard started the season with a flourish with some forecasting a 15-20 goal season.
Mateta, Clyne and Hughes were largely written off and deemed as needing to be replaced.
Franca was hailed as the potential new Messiah.
There was anxiety about whether the injured Olise would recover to the same level.
There was doubt if Richards could remain injury free for more than a handful of consecutive games.

Now look what happened over the subsequent period.

The optimism around Hodgson dissipated over lame performances and results and he was replaced.
Edouard’s early season form proved to be a flash in the plan.
Mateta turned into a £30 million striker.
Clyne turned the clock 10 years with his performances.
Hughes excelled in a 2 man central midfield with Wharton,an unproven youngster from a championship team.
Olise recovered well enough to depart for around £50 million.
Richards was barely injured and maintained a good level of consistency all season.

It’s what makes football fascinating and frustrating in equal measures, all the uncertainty.
The only thing we know is what we don’t know for the new season!
Some players will disappoint, others will surprisingly come to the fore.

Where we will be in a year and who will be involved remains a mystery.

 

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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 21 Jul 24 5.25pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by PatrickA

I was thinking back to 11 or so months ago.

There was much optimism for the new season with the team finishing the previous season so well under Hodgson.

Edouard started the season with a flourish with some forecasting a 15-20 goal season.
Mateta, Clyne and Hughes were largely written off and deemed as needing to be replaced.
Franca was hailed as the potential new Messiah.
There was anxiety about whether the injured Olise would recover to the same level.
There was doubt if Richards could remain injury free for more than a handful of consecutive games.

Now look what happened over the subsequent period.

The optimism around Hodgson dissipated over lame performances and results and he was replaced.
Edouard’s early season form proved to be a flash in the plan.
Mateta turned into a £30 million striker.
Clyne turned the clock 10 years with his performances.
Hughes excelled in a 2 man central midfield with Wharton,an unproven youngster from a championship team.
Olise recovered well enough to depart for around £50 million.
Richards was barely injured and maintained a good level of consistency all season.

It’s what makes football fascinating and frustrating in equal measures, all the uncertainty.
The only thing we know is what we don’t know for the new season!
Some players will disappoint, others will surprisingly come to the fore.

Where we will be in a year and who will be involved remains a mystery.

I often like to assert things with confidence. I also think it’s very hard not to be emboldened by others either responding enthusiastically or posting on different subjects with sentiments that reflect my own thinking.

The reality is however that we’ll never know and although some of my predictions/theories turn out (often happily) to be complete nonsense, it’s the very nature of the game. How many 100s of millions if not billions of pounds are spent on players who turn out to be useless, for instance? Let alone the thoughts of just another fan!

It’s part of the game and part of why we love it! All that said, even England losing in another final didn’t bother me too much as I’m very much looking forward to the season ahead!

COYP!

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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pssguy Flag 21 Jul 24 11.15pm Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

Whatever happens, we always finish 10-15th

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Jul 24 7.32am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by pssguy

Whatever happens, we always finish 10-15th

 


One more point

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dreamwaverider Flag London 22 Jul 24 7.35am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

Interesting thread.
The biggest issue amongst all but one player the OP sited is injury. Injuries play a huge part in determining the future of form for players these days. Being injury averse is a huge plus for any player who is lucky enough to be made out of rubber,
Some players hardly ever get injuries, while others have career changing problems.In Olise's case he has already picked up some serious problems in his young years. Selling him thiss summer was a very good move as he is an injury prone player. However Richards was also suffering from regular injury and would appear to have overcome his issues.
Franca is another who has been in the treatment room quite a bit. If he can keep fit, who knows how good he may become.
Players who avoid serious injuries and are good enough to play top level are few and far between, but undoubtedly are valuable assets for their clubs. We dont have many, in fact only a few. Bur Mateta has emerged as a huge very strong asset for us.My memory isn't great but I can't remember him having any big issues so far. Anderson is another stalwart
He rarely is out for long.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jul 24 11.51am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I don't know nothing

 


Red and Blue Army!

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Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 22 Jul 24 3.25pm Send a Private Message to Palacesince64 Add Palacesince64 as a friend

Probably the only sure thing is that if Glasner starts the season as well as he finished last one, he’ll be touted for every available job. Hopefully he sticks with us for a while before taking over at Bayern once they decide it’s time to ditch the current incumbent.

 

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ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 22 Jul 24 7.44pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

"I don't know" is a very underrated answer to a lot of questions. More people should say it imho. The OP's thread could apply to life in general not just life as a Palace fan. Top 8 finish this year and be interesting to see how Glasner treats the cups.

 

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monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 22 Jul 24 8.31pm Send a Private Message to monkey Add monkey as a friend

Originally posted by ex hibitionist

"I don't know" is a very underrated answer to a lot of questions. More people should say it imho. The OP's thread could apply to life in general not just life as a Palace fan. Top 8 finish this year and be interesting to see how Glasner treats the cups.

I know he’s got a different squad and a club which may have different priorities, but you’d think at least HE would be up for the cups after his success with Frankfurt

 

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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 23 Jul 24 3.56pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

I know nothing about:
Tactics,
substitutions
training
transfer policy
football management

However, after 5 pints of Stella Artois, I turn into a bit of a football guru.

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

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