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 Matov  15 Jul 24 6.39pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Probably crying as he pulled the trigger. The counter sniper made a mess of his head. However, considering how fast he was shot after shooting they must have known his position....dodgey. It gets messier and messier. And still the question as to why that roof had nobody on it. It should have been SOP to have people on that roof, if only to monitor the Trump rally from a different angle. This beggers belief more and more.
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| Spiderman Horsham 15 Jul 24 6.44pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Was it an attempt on his life? If you listen to some of the conspiracy theories, not the ones you read here, it was all staged to show him as a hero before the Convention. But yes, I detest violence of every kind and never want it to succeed. I wish he had never been born, not that he must now be removed. He exists, but so does the populism that allows such a character to be elevated to high office. It’s the belief in populism as a solution to political problems that needs to be removed. Not the pawns that try to manoeuvre their way to become kings. Jeez!
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 Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jul 24 6.48pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Jeez! It's amazing isn't it. Absolute narcissistic, Orwellian fruitcakery.
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| Spiderman Horsham 15 Jul 24 6.53pm |
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Originally posted by palace99
a random example? How about Boris accusing Starmer of refusing to prosecute Jimmy Saville, something that was not only incorrect but caused Starmer to face a number of death threats. How about all the Trump supporters calling for tougher gun laws so these people don't have access to daddy's guns? Yep, it's been pretty quiet on that front hasn't it. How about all the death threats from the left to J K Rowling, for expressing her views? How about all the anti semetic rhetoric from the left?
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| eaglesdare 15 Jul 24 7.17pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's amazing isn't it. Absolute narcissistic, Orwellian fruitcakery. The last 48 hours have really showed this.
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Ouzo Dan  Behind you 15 Jul 24 7.29pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
Firstly, thanks for the technical stuff. Adds to it all. But this point I have quoted is what matters above all else. This was not some built-up urban area dominated by rooftops and windows. This was a relatively open area with very few vantage spots for a potential sniper to utilise. And that particular roof would have been the number one choice. Standing out to even the most basic onlooker as a spot that needed securing even if only to make use of for security purposes such as observing the crowd facing onto where Trump was speaking. In fact, them not having people stationed up there is just as shocking. The only question is the negligence just incompetence or willful? A simple, binary choice.
Absolutely no way they happened to miss securing that building.
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Attachment: | Matov 15 Jul 24 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Absolutely no way they happened to miss securing that building. It does begger belief. You do a risk assessment of that site and that building would scream out at you. More than that. Come with a huge big red flag. If anything, one of the easier venues to secure given the lack of high buildings surrounding it. For me the only question is why that roof was not being occupied by security people for monitoring the rear of the crowd. That is what makes zero sense. That roof space should have been crawling with security. The sniper team that took out the shooter were clearly placed to face that direction. That roof space must have been under constant observation.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 15 Jul 24 7.53pm |
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And some poor fecker died protecting his family.
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| Matov 15 Jul 24 8.05pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
And some poor fecker died protecting his family. Very much so. Even seeing Left Wing media sites questioning just what the hell happened here because this was glaring. My own take, which I accept comes with the proviso of my own extremist right-wing views, is that the Deep State are so arrogant that they wanted to take out Trump in such a blatent manner that it sent a wider message to anybody else daring to challenge the official farce of modern politics. That they simply did not care what people thought. Displayed their utter arrogance and contempt by staging what is clearly a set-up. Blow Trump's head off at a campaign rally and send a message to anybody else daring to question their divine right to rule. We will not protect you. Your own security service will literally set you up for public execution. And not really care a single iota that the world knows it. Except it failed. Now I have many, many issues with Trump. This is what the Left sometimes fail to understand about those of us on the extreme Right. Trump is not our man. Not even close. Despise him for many of the reasons the Left do. But yesterday finally convinced me they are scared of him. And in their literal arrogance, might have actually secured him the White House. At a potential stroll. I think they will try again. There is no way he gets to stand without at least one more serious attempt to take him out. Trump has them running scared.
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| Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 15 Jul 24 8.19pm |
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For all of the security blunders, it still takes a rogue shooter to randomly exploit the security failings that day. Or was the shooter set-up ? After failing to kill Trump, he was taken out immediately. If he'd killed Trump, the shooter would still have been killed.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 15 Jul 24 8.26pm |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
For all of the security blunders, it still takes a rogue shooter to randomly exploit the security failings that day. Or was the shooter set-up ? After failing to kill Trump, he was taken out immediately. If he'd killed Trump, the shooter would still have been killed. I'm sure plausible deniability will be woven in over the coming weeks to answer all the questions. But really. Who cares what people suspect if any trail of evidence is investigated by the same people who were responsible?
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 15 Jul 24 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
It's amazing isn't it. Absolute narcissistic, Orwellian fruitcakery. For once I agree with you. That’s an accurate description of Trump. Well done.
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