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I Would also add that I do give Southgate credit for restoring 'hope' to the england fans. After the Hodgson tournament, faith in the england team was at an all time low, with many turning their back on the team.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Surely no one actually believes this!? How many decades of examples to the contrary do you need? Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (12 Jul 2024 12.17pm) Look up the thread. 3 posters agreed. So yes, somehow they do.
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Wasted words. Win on Sunday and then back-to-back with the World Cup and they will still be saying he's cr@p. (You forgot Turnip Head and "our" Roy)
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
All of those managers went out to the best teams in the world earlier in the tournament, or semi finals in 2 cases. If Bellingham didn’t score an overhead kick versus Slovakia in round 2 he’d have resigned or been asked to. Southgate has had the easiest routes through not just this tournament but every tournament. The team spirit and perseverance has been excellent, but he’s not fooling everyone with the intelligent analysis. Maybe we’ll miss Kalvin Phillips again on Sunday? Or will it be Maguire he kept playing leading up to the tournament? Remember Mainoo was the 3rd and probably last midfielder he was willing to ‘experiment’ with next to Rice. Agree with all of this. The stats of two finals, semi and quarters looks good in isolation. They're not so impressive when you look at the lesser opponents we've beaten to get there. I saw a stat yesterday showing that during Southgate's tenure in major comps we've won 3/10 against teams ranked in the top 10. Talksport this morning discussing that the FA are supposedly on the charm offensive - regardless of what happens against Spain - to offer him a new contract. This is a big worry for me. I don't believe a single premier league club would touch Southgate, so why should England? Potter, Poch or Klopp would all be a huge upgrade if they wanted it. I will give him credit for bringing on Watkins. I think the average fan would have gone for Toney. My guy feeling is that we'll grind out a win against Spain. Footballs coming home.
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
Agree with all of this. The stats of two finals, semi and quarters looks good in isolation. They're not so impressive when you look at the lesser opponents we've beaten to get there. I saw a stat yesterday showing that during Southgate's tenure in major comps we've won 3/10 against teams ranked in the top 10. Talksport this morning discussing that the FA are supposedly on the charm offensive - regardless of what happens against Spain - to offer him a new contract. This is a big worry for me. I don't believe a single premier league club would touch Southgate, so why should England? Potter, Poch or Klopp would all be a huge upgrade if they wanted it. I will give him credit for bringing on Watkins. I think the average fan would have gone for Toney. My guy feeling is that we'll grind out a win against Spain. Footballs coming home. How many?
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Originally posted by Goal Machine
Agree with all of this. The stats of two finals, semi and quarters looks good in isolation. They're not so impressive when you look at the lesser opponents we've beaten to get there. I saw a stat yesterday showing that during Southgate's tenure in major comps we've won 3/10 against teams ranked in the top 10. Talksport this morning discussing that the FA are supposedly on the charm offensive - regardless of what happens against Spain - to offer him a new contract. This is a big worry for me. I don't believe a single premier league club would touch Southgate, so why should England? Potter, Poch or Klopp would all be a huge upgrade if they wanted it. I will give him credit for bringing on Watkins. I think the average fan would have gone for Toney. My guy feeling is that we'll grind out a win against Spain. Footballs coming home. Do you think they don't calculate where the most likely run to the final is? If the best way to get the easiest route is finishing 2nd in the group stage that is where we will finish. The French. They ought to have had the easier run and would have missed the Spanish... but they finished 2nd, n'est pas. And talking of Slovenia, remember years ago we only beat them 1-0, finished 2nd and then got stuffed by the Germans in the first knockout game? That doesn't happen any more. Still, we don't play like Brazil 1970 so sack the manager.
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Originally posted by silvertop
Do you think they don't calculate where the most likely run to the final is? If the best way to get the easiest route is finishing 2nd in the group stage that is where we will finish. The French. They ought to have had the easier run and would have missed the Spanish... but they finished 2nd, n'est pas. And talking of Slovenia, remember years ago we only beat them 1-0, finished 2nd and then got stuffed by the Germans in the first knockout game? That doesn't happen any more. Still, we don't play like Brazil 1970 so sack the manager. It's n'est-ce pas. I always think if one is going to attempt to be pretentious one should be accurate so as to avoid coming across as a buffoon.
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Originally posted by silvertop
Do you think they don't calculate where the most likely run to the final is? If the best way to get the easiest route is finishing 2nd in the group stage that is where we will finish. The French. They ought to have had the easier run and would have missed the Spanish... but they finished 2nd, n'est pas. And talking of Slovenia, remember years ago we only beat them 1-0, finished 2nd and then got stuffed by the Germans in the first knockout game? That doesn't happen any more. Still, we don't play like Brazil 1970 so sack the manager.
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Originally posted by monkey
If you’re right, he might change his mind when/if he gets a nice shiny winners medal A winners medal, when you didnt play a minute of the finals, is a bit worthless.
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Originally posted by Painter
A winners medal, when you didnt play a minute of the finals, is a bit worthless. Not sure the players would agree with you. I am disappointed that Wharton has not been given any minutes, had we won our first 2 group games, I think he would have played in game 3. However, I suspect GS made it clear to him that his game time would be very limited ( if at all) but the experience he has gained being around the squad and training with them is invaluable to him. Will he think his medal is worthless? I don’t think so
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Originally posted by Painter
A winners medal, when you didnt play a minute of the finals, is a bit worthless. When England are 4-0 up, Gareth will give him a run out.
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Originally posted by Painter
A winners medal, when you didnt play a minute of the finals, is a bit worthless. Absolute cobblers!! He’s trained with the squad and been ready to go if needed, he could go on to win 50 or more caps and not get another medal, so I doubt he’ll be giving it back
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