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steeleye20 Croydon 22 Jun 24 9.17pm
Starmer’s growth plan doomed without access to EU markets, warn economists. Labour leader told if elected he will have to rejoin the customs union to meet party’s manifesto pledges, while 56% of voters say Brexit was bad for economy. This.
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Croydon 22 Jun 24 9.17pm

Starmer’s growth plan doomed without access to EU markets, warn economists.

Labour leader told if elected he will have to rejoin the customs union to meet party’s manifesto pledges, while 56% of voters say Brexit was bad for economy.

This.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 9.46pm
Originally posted by cryrst I believe Cameron asked two things. No free movement and no euro. They refused so we did brexit. Good riddance to the EU and frankly I haven’t noticed one jot of change. Apart from we can control our borders(not the illegals) and we don’t have the euro. Edited by cryrst (22 Jun 2024 7.46pm) There is no doubt that the EU negotiators made some bad calculations in the belief that the British people wouldn’t ever vote to leave. They had more faith in us than was justified! There’s been heaps of change. Just look at how much more complicated the movement of goods has become. Which adds cost. The number of EU workers who have left and been replaced by those from elsewhere. Have you queued at EU immigration recently? Those are just for starters. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 9.46pm

Originally posted by cryrst

I believe Cameron asked two things. No free movement and no euro.
They refused so we did brexit. Good riddance to the EU and frankly I haven’t noticed one jot of change. Apart from we can control our borders(not the illegals) and we don’t have the euro.

Edited by cryrst (22 Jun 2024 7.46pm)

There is no doubt that the EU negotiators made some bad calculations in the belief that the British people wouldn’t ever vote to leave. They had more faith in us than was justified! There’s been heaps of change. Just look at how much more complicated the movement of goods has become. Which adds cost. The number of EU workers who have left and been replaced by those from elsewhere. Have you queued at EU immigration recently? Those are just for starters.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 9.46pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Starmer’s growth plan doomed without access to EU markets, warn economists. Labour leader told if elected he will have to rejoin the customs union to meet party’s manifesto pledges, while 56% of voters say Brexit was bad for economy. This. We can but hope! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 9.46pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Starmer’s growth plan doomed without access to EU markets, warn economists.

Labour leader told if elected he will have to rejoin the customs union to meet party’s manifesto pledges, while 56% of voters say Brexit was bad for economy.

This.

We can but hope!

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eaglesdare 22 Jun 24 9.49pm
I see Google were again dabbing their hand at election interference today by blocking reforms adds and then unblocked them when called out. Seems they and many others don't like Farage spillings truths about the ridiculous Ukraine narrative being driven. Edited by eaglesdare (22 Jun 2024 9.49pm)
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22 Jun 24 9.49pm

I see Google were again dabbing their hand at election interference today by blocking reforms adds and then unblocked them when called out.

Seems they and many others don't like Farage spillings truths about the ridiculous Ukraine narrative being driven.

Edited by eaglesdare (22 Jun 2024 9.49pm)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 10.13pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Obviously untrue? You have NO proof. Like always, you're a fake. Just look up the way the EU works! Fundamental change requires a treaty. A treaty is only passed if everyone accepts it. With us as members it would not even be attempted. Some may seek it, but would be unable to achieve it under the EU framework. We would never lose control over our fiscal or foreign policies. It’s unthinkable. That’s the only proof that’s needed. That’s not to say that there won’t be a harmonisation of policy in some areas where to do so makes sense. That though is not anything like full federalisation, even if some think it is It’s cooperation. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 10.13pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Obviously untrue? You have NO proof. Like always, you're a fake.

Just look up the way the EU works! Fundamental change requires a treaty. A treaty is only passed if everyone accepts it. With us as members it would not even be attempted. Some may seek it, but would be unable to achieve it under the EU framework. We would never lose control over our fiscal or foreign policies. It’s unthinkable.

That’s the only proof that’s needed.

That’s not to say that there won’t be a harmonisation of policy in some areas where to do so makes sense. That though is not anything like full federalisation, even if some think it is It’s cooperation.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 10.19pm
Originally posted by eaglesdare I see Google were again dabbing their hand at election interference today by blocking reforms adds and then unblocked them when called out. Seems they and many others don't like Farage spillings truths about the ridiculous Ukraine narrative being driven. Edited by eaglesdare (22 Jun 2024 9.49pm) Much more likely to be concerned about them being picked up and spread around Russia. Helping the enemy is treason, which used to be a capital offence. Google have good reason to be cautious! For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 10.19pm

Originally posted by eaglesdare

I see Google were again dabbing their hand at election interference today by blocking reforms adds and then unblocked them when called out.

Seems they and many others don't like Farage spillings truths about the ridiculous Ukraine narrative being driven.

Edited by eaglesdare (22 Jun 2024 9.49pm)

Much more likely to be concerned about them being picked up and spread around Russia. Helping the enemy is treason, which used to be a capital offence.

Google have good reason to be cautious!

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Stirlingsays 22 Jun 24 10.48pm
We aren't at war with Russia. A certain poster told me that several times. Most sensible people would like that to remain the case. The use of the word 'enemy' should not be thrown about. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jun 2024 10.49pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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22 Jun 24 10.48pm

We aren't at war with Russia.

A certain poster told me that several times.

Most sensible people would like that to remain the case.

The use of the word 'enemy' should not be thrown about.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jun 2024 10.49pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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eaglesdare 22 Jun 24 10.51pm
what a tantrum the news media and those looney wokie "liberal" lefties are having about Nigel Farage. A Green candidate, under the flag of Palastine, shouts Alah Akbar, and gets voted based on the terrorists Hamas and applause is given but when Farage speaks his mind the lefties have a meltdown and loose their minds. Make it make sense.
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eaglesdare

22 Jun 24 10.51pm

what a tantrum the news media and those looney wokie "liberal" lefties are having about Nigel Farage.

A Green candidate, under the flag of Palastine, shouts Alah Akbar, and gets voted based on the terrorists Hamas and applause is given but when Farage speaks his mind the lefties have a meltdown and loose their minds.

Make it make sense.

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eaglesdare 22 Jun 24 10.51pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays We aren't at war with Russia. A certain poster told me that several times. Most sensible people would like that to remain the case. The use of the word 'enemy' should not be thrown about. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jun 2024 10.49pm) Precisely.
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22 Jun 24 10.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

We aren't at war with Russia.

A certain poster told me that several times.

Most sensible people would like that to remain the case.

The use of the word 'enemy' should not be thrown about.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jun 2024 10.49pm)

Precisely.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 11.43pm
You don’t have to be having a hot war to have enemies and Putin, and the regime he leads, most surely are our enemies! He has been fighting an ideas and cyber war with the West for a very long time. He would like to destroy the West and anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 22 Jun 24 11.43pm

You don’t have to be having a hot war to have enemies and Putin, and the regime he leads, most surely are our enemies!

He has been fighting an ideas and cyber war with the West for a very long time. He would like to destroy the West and anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Beanyboysmd 23 Jun 24 12.00am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays We aren't at war with Russia. A certain poster told me that several times. Most sensible people would like that to remain the case. The use of the word 'enemy' should not be thrown about. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jun 2024 10.49pm) Fair, but they are the other side in a cold/proxy war. Enemy might be too strong but it is somewhere between opposite number and enemy. One for the linguists I think...
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Beanyboysmd

23 Jun 24 12.00am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

We aren't at war with Russia.

A certain poster told me that several times.

Most sensible people would like that to remain the case.

The use of the word 'enemy' should not be thrown about.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jun 2024 10.49pm)

Fair, but they are the other side in a cold/proxy war. Enemy might be too strong but it is somewhere between opposite number and enemy. One for the linguists I think...

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eaglesdare 23 Jun 24 12.25am
It is irresponsible to peddle wild ridiculous conspiracy theories about Putin or indeed Farage. Especially during times of misinformation and disinformation which runs rapid throughout the mainstream media and those lefty folk.
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23 Jun 24 12.25am

It is irresponsible to peddle wild ridiculous conspiracy theories about Putin or indeed Farage.

Especially during times of misinformation and disinformation which runs rapid throughout the mainstream media and those lefty folk.

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