So you've appointed yourself chief critic of the extent to which people can comment on England EDN?

I'm not having a go here, I'd just suggest tournament football is emotionally provocative for people and I'd equally suggest it does you no favours to be wound up by anybody else's hysterics, leave 'em to have at it if they wish! Just a suggestion.

More importantly, Come on England!! We can do nothing but support and 4 of our fellas (for now) are out there. Onwards and upwards... hopefully.

As an aside, is a 'Euro 2024' thread, dark horses in Romania for anybody?

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

I don’t get your point at all - I haven’t said anyone is not allowed to comment on football or anything close to that.

Much like after a Palace game, you will get some harsh critics and you will get some people disagreeing with said criticism - I’m not sure how this is any different.

But anyway, long way to go! Interested to see how France get on tonight - a distinct lack of upsets so far, surely we see at least one first round scalp.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (17 Jun 2024 4.59pm)

Second half so disappointing and dispiriting.

We played as Hodgson would have - retreating to let moderate opposition look good.

Southgate reacts (sometimes) but is never pro-active. Compare with what Glasner would have done.

Basically he's gifted with some special players but hasn't much clue how to use them. He'll have Kane taking corners next.

My paper (Times) raving about Rice and Guehi - really?

Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

I am a bit surprised by the negative comments about the Serbia game and England's prospects in general. Serbia were always going to present a decent test. We were the better team in the first half took the lead and although Serbia battle valiantly they in my opinion never looked really looked like scoring. With the Slovenia Denmark game ending in a draw i would be surprised if one more win and a draw will not see us through as group winners. Ideally it would be good to get the win against Denmark and we can then rotate players like Bellingham for the Slovenia game and keep them fresh for the knockout stages.
I was impressed by Rice and he protected the back four well and stood up well to Serbia's physical game. He is very consistent and is a player than can play in every game and still play well. I can see there is a case to play Ollie Watkins as he works harder off the ball than Kane and to play someone like Gordon over Foden but these are great options to have and reflect England's competition in the forward areas. I suspect though the only change will be Gallagher for TAA.
These tournaments are about peaking at the right time and improving as you go along.

Edited by viveasheagle (18 Jun 2024 3.54am)

35 appearances, 4 goals and 8 assists would suggest otherwise

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

My issue with the game, and probably perceived overaction to a 1-0 win. Is that its more than just this one game.

Its off the back of a terrible performance against Iceland, unconvincing again Bosnia, last min equaliser against Belgium, loss to Brazil, draw against Macedonia.

So we are all hoping that we manage to pull things together for the tournament, but its the same dross. And for a Palace fan, it feels very similar to the end of Roy, no cohesiveness, no apparent plan, players in wrong positions etc.

And last 10 years.... I honestly do believe that England should have done better. Southgate's tactics (as with Roys) are able to drag us through matches against poorer oppo, but struggle against the better ones.

Especially considering the Spanish, Germans and Italians have had pretty big squad overhauls.

And this Trent in midfield experiment, its as bad as Scholes playing Left mid, or Kane on corners.

Also, the friendlies are pointless. He doesn't use them to try new formations or tactics, simply putting different people into the same roles. Its why we are now entering a major tournament without knowing:
Who to play in CM
How to get the best out of Foden
What our plan B is
If Watkins, and Toney could play 'with' Kane