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 Stirlingsays  16 Jun 24 4.18pm |
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Originally posted by carrick eagle
For me, I was born in England of irish parents, and I was brought up very irish, spent my summer in ireland with my grandparents, and have never felt English. I have lived in ireland for the last 50 years and to the irish I'm English and to the English I'm irish. So it boils down to one thing if Ireland we're playing England in a soccer match, I would be shouting for Ireland 🇮🇪 so that answers a lot of questions That's fair enough, though I have little doubt that a DNA test would show you have English and other genetic influences as these isles are generally mixed. That said, how your parents raise you will imprint your identity onto you and that's no bad thing.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jun 24 4.20pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
can the Scots, Welsh & Irish rally together and expel the English from the British Isles ? yis are only really a bunch of blonde blow-ins from Northern Germany. Unlike us brunette, blue-eyed Celtic types. Only been here for 1,700 years. Which is no time at all compared to the rest of us. From the river Avon, to Penge and Anerley.....yis haven't even finished supplanting all the Celtic place names with your alien invader language. Even the Sel in Selhurst is a Celtic root. Do i need to beat you with a stick to get you to see it ? Need some salt with that chip?
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carrick eagle  Carrick-on-suir 16 Jun 24 4.31pm |
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Good point, I think its how you are rared, I feel more connected to the irish culture. I've met dickheads from ireland and England but I feel the English have never been taught the atrocities that accured in Ireland at the hands of the English, that said the English shouldn't be held accountable for what there fore fathers done
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The groover  Danbury 16 Jun 24 4.33pm |
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Anyone born in England that wants to be English and thus British is exactly that. If they don't want to be English that's fine as well. Regardless of colour religion or anything else. This place is a mixing pot and always has been. The fact that previously it was 'white people ' in that pot disguised that fact. Colour has now been added to the mix. But so what. Eze and Guehi are currently in Germany playing for England. Anyone going to say they are not English? I'm a mix of Scottish, French, German and English. But consider myself as English, British and as patriotic as the next man.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jun 24 4.58pm |
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Originally posted by carrick eagle
Good point, I think its how you are rared, I feel more connected to the irish culture. I've met dickheads from ireland and England but I feel the English have never been taught the atrocities that accured in Ireland at the hands of the English, that said the English shouldn't be held accountable for what there fore fathers done Yep, what Cromwell did and the Orange wars were all connected to religion far more than we would recognise now and I think most regret it happened. One side of my family is Belfast unionist but I was raised in England without that culture so I've always regarded myself as English. With my name it's obvious that the family originally came from Scotland.....So it's pretty mixed. God knows what my ancestors were banging.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jun 24 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The reasons these things are brought to the fore can be expressed in three words. Lest we forget. Will you fight them on the beaches of Cornwall Wisbech? Your kind would have surrendered to Hitler.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jun 24 5.03pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
As an Englishman by both birth and culture there is nothing to understand. We are all legally British and emotionally English. Those trying to impose their own conditions on the latter have no justification for doing so and even less right. They can all sit in a huddle and have a moanfest to their heart’s content but it’s not going to change anything.
Haven't you got a game of boules to go to?
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jun 24 5.04pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
can the Scots, Welsh & Irish rally together and expel the English from the British Isles ? yis are only really a bunch of blonde blow-ins from Northern Germany. Unlike us brunette, blue-eyed Celtic types. Only been here for 1,700 years. Which is no time at all compared to the rest of us. From the river Avon, to Penge and Anerley.....yis haven't even finished supplanting all the Celtic place names with your alien invader language. Even the Sel in Selhurst is a Celtic root. Do i need to beat you with a stick to get you to see it ? No such thing as Celts.
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| carrick eagle Carrick-on-suir 16 Jun 24 5.55pm |
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Well sterlingsays, making good points, have to say unusual for an English man, but like I said not alot of English are aware of the history between the two countries as it was never taught in the English schools
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 16 Jun 24 6.05pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
its always complex. The heroic, suffering & Epic. People you want to remember. Alfred the Great, Lee Rigby, Alan Turing , Matt le Tissier or the opposite : People you would rather not remember...... For every nation. Identity is a mixed bag. Both good and bad.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jun 24 6.23pm |
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Originally posted by carrick eagle
Well sterlingsays, making good points, have to say unusual for an English man, but like I said not alot of English are aware of the history between the two countries as it was never taught in the English schools Yep, most English people don't even know that Ireland was part of Britain for a long time.....well 121 years. All countries do bad things at various times in their history and if it's taught properly then it's fine....However, I most definitely think what the German boomers did to German children went way over the top.....You can see it now in the attitude divide between East Germans (who didn't get that self hating propaganda as bad) and West Germans. I don't think any nation should teach its children a negative view of its history.
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| carrick eagle Carrick-on-suir 16 Jun 24 6.24pm |
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Oliver Cromwell was a c@@t
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