and how does a girl recognise a committed Father type ? maybe if he buys her a bunch of flowers ?

and 17 years ago, did his father stick around ?

a successful Society cannot carry a massive cohort of absentee fathers....look at the countries with the Murder-statistics. Eg Kingston, Jamaica - which Ross Kemp called the 'murder capital of the World'.

To be prejudiced is to hold an opinion that does not stack up with reality.
So maybe the stabber is an aspiring medical student with family ties to Reykjavik, Iceland. Statistically one of the safest cities in Europe. And maybe his Father is also a NeuroSurgeon who stayed around during the childhood of the stabber ?

so which scenario is more likely ?

This murder has sickened the Nation. Not your usual Drug dealer killing other drug dealer stuff.

Lads, imagine if you murdered every girl that has ever dumped you ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (28 Sep 2023 3.50pm)

Whilst I agree with you on the work hard aspect, the education system is a complete shambles in this country compared to when the group you are referring to came across... you only need to know a few teachers in the state system to understand the issue. The brightest kids get the attention and others that are perfectly capable and would do well in the private system get (understandably) marginalised. In that system working hard doesn't give you the same outcome as someone of equal potential in the private system, for example. And the gap has never been bigger

Re. 'don't have kids with fathers...' if only life was so simple and we all had the answers. If everyone had future vision then it would all be fine

Erm, the country they originally come from maybe.

With respect, you can't keep referring to one country out of several hundred. An anomaly doth not make the case

You have to look at things in the round. Plenty of murder and serious crime globally and with varying ethnic emphasis. Again, just focusing on London and Jamaica isn't really a particularly well constructed or strong argument. It does however suggest a long established, predetermined POV on this subject. That much has always been obvious

Ross Kemp is your go to on these matters? Jesus

FYI 9 of the top 10 'murder' cities are in Mexico. It's almost like poverty and corruption create high crime rates and populations with no prospects that turn to other means to get by. That and the usual criminal cohort (a group active in every demographic) are able to grow exponentially as a result, pulling others in to their black hole as they fill the gap left by those supposed to govern.

Tale as old as time