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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 09 Aug 23 9.12am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill I can't recall any player refusing to play, the occasional strop maybe, but refusal to play? Side line immediately and put on the transfer list. if he wants off now, find the clause in the contract, sort out the financial details and ta ta. Edited by southnorwoodhill (09 Aug 2023 8.39am) Another keeper actually had a strop when we were on our knees financially and his money was late and he wouldn’t take a cut to help out, Kevin Miller. He actually refused to play when he was actually playing!! We lost 6-0 at QPR and it was a disgusting show of deliberate sabotage because he was forced to play
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 09 Aug 23 9.12am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I can't recall any player refusing to play, the occasional strop maybe, but refusal to play? Side line immediately and put on the transfer list. if he wants off now, find the clause in the contract, sort out the financial details and ta ta.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (09 Aug 2023 8.39am)

Another keeper actually had a strop when we were on our knees financially and his money was late and he wouldn’t take a cut to help out, Kevin Miller. He actually refused to play when he was actually playing!! We lost 6-0 at QPR and it was a disgusting show of deliberate sabotage because he was forced to play

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orpingtoneagle Orpington 09 Aug 23 9.14am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill I can't recall any player refusing to play, the occasional strop maybe, but refusal to play? Side line immediately and put on the transfer list. if he wants off now, find the clause in the contract, sort out the financial details and ta ta. Edited by southnorwoodhill (09 Aug 2023 8.39am) Didn't Kevin Miller refuse to play for is during his spell at the club (I think when we went into administration
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I can't recall any player refusing to play, the occasional strop maybe, but refusal to play? Side line immediately and put on the transfer list. if he wants off now, find the clause in the contract, sort out the financial details and ta ta.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (09 Aug 2023 8.39am)

Didn't Kevin Miller refuse to play for is during his spell at the club (I think when we went into administration

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Pete53 Hassocks 09 Aug 23 9.22am
Originally posted by Gribbo There’s a reason why we conceded a lot of goals from corners last year. Never happened at Man U with Shmeichel between the sticks. The fella knew how to command his box. Not sure it really is Vinnies forte. Good luck and move on. Fortunately we have 2 good young keepers to step up. Use the money to replace the talentless Edouard up front. Possibly, although it was Johnstone not Guaita in goal when we conceded three times from corner kicks against West Ham in the season just gone.
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Hassocks 09 Aug 23 9.22am

Originally posted by Gribbo

There’s a reason why we conceded a lot of goals from corners last year. Never happened at Man U with Shmeichel between the sticks. The fella knew how to command his box. Not sure it really is Vinnies forte.

Good luck and move on. Fortunately we have 2 good young keepers to step up. Use the money to replace the talentless Edouard up front.

Possibly, although it was Johnstone not Guaita in goal when we conceded three times from corner kicks against West Ham in the season just gone.

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monkey Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 09 Aug 23 9.24am
Originally posted by orpingtoneagle Didn't Kevin Miller refuse to play for is during his spell at the club (I think when we went into administration Yes, see above
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Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 09 Aug 23 9.24am

Originally posted by orpingtoneagle

Didn't Kevin Miller refuse to play for is during his spell at the club (I think when we went into administration

Yes, see above

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madcap_v2 SE25 / Ibiza 09 Aug 23 9.32am
Off ye f*** then! It's a shame his Palace career has to end like this, but he's been replaced by a younger, potentially better keeper. La la la your mum
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SE25 / Ibiza 09 Aug 23 9.32am

Off ye f*** then!
It's a shame his Palace career has to end like this, but he's been replaced by a younger, potentially better keeper.

La la la your mum

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The Dolphin 09 Aug 23 9.37am
If it is true then he needs to be brought back onside quickly or offloaded asap. Can't have open mutiny like that. I prefer Sam anyway!
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09 Aug 23 9.37am

If it is true then he needs to be brought back onside quickly or offloaded asap.
Can't have open mutiny like that.
I prefer Sam anyway!

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YT Oxford 09 Aug 23 9.49am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill I can't recall any player refusing to play, the occasional strop maybe, but refusal to play? Side line immediately and put on the transfer list. if he wants off now, find the clause in the contract, sort out the financial details and ta ta. Edited by southnorwoodhill (09 Aug 2023 8.39am) Just as well because we've had numerous players with no ability to play. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)
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Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

I can't recall any player refusing to play, the occasional strop maybe, but refusal to play? Side line immediately and put on the transfer list. if he wants off now, find the clause in the contract, sort out the financial details and ta ta.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (09 Aug 2023 8.39am)

Just as well because we've had numerous players with no ability to play.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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palace99 New Mills 09 Aug 23 10.11am
Originally posted by Vectis Totally unprofessional and disrespectful behaviour from Guaita and a very disappointing end to his Palace career. One would hope the club terminate his contract for effectively refusing to work and send him on his way if he persists in this behaviour and it has a disruptive effect in the other players A good shot stopper, his kicking and distribution were always quite weak and he did not command his box very well. Far too many balls were allowed to pass through Vinnie’s 6 yard box and he was often hesitant to leave his line. A good player, but certainly no Jackson, Martyn or Speroni I suggest sums up his time with us. So far at least Sam Johnstone looks a good and younger upgrade What I still don’t understand is why Jack Butland was allowed to leave on loan last season and not offered a contract for this year. In the end he was needed last season when instead Joe Whitworth had to step up. Jack was a one-time England international, younger than Guaita and having him and Johnstone challenging for the number 1 made more sense than extending Guaita’s contract by a year at his age. Now of course the club are scrambling around needing a good Premier League standard backup to Johnstone as Matthews is not it, Whitworth is not experienced enough yet and Goodman is out on loan. Another problem to solve along with several others in the squad. You have to sympathise with Roy being handed all these issues to cope with! yes no player is entitled to always play - it's not like he lost his place to a youngster, Johnstone has played for England. For me VG is clearly trying to get a free transfer back to Spain. The problem he has is wages. When we signed him he was reported paid £60k a week, probably more than double what he was earning in Spain. A few years later he starts making noises that he wants to move back to Spain and suddenly signs a 2 year extension on improved terms. He did the same last year and another 1 year extension was offered, and accepted. At 36 i did think maybe we should have waited until the summer before this offer was made. With his age and high wages he will not be in such high demand in Spain. I suspect the only way he will get a deal is if the club signing him don't need to pay a transfer fee. However, if he wanted to finish his career in Spain he could have refused the last contract extension. So now we have an unhappy goalie reportedly earning £4m a year. He is clearly trying to force the club's hand before the Sept 1 transfer window close.
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New Mills 09 Aug 23 10.11am

Originally posted by Vectis

Totally unprofessional and disrespectful behaviour from Guaita and a very disappointing end to his Palace career. One would hope the club terminate his contract for effectively refusing to work and send him on his way if he persists in this behaviour and it has a disruptive effect in the other players

A good shot stopper, his kicking and distribution were always quite weak and he did not command his box very well. Far too many balls were allowed to pass through Vinnie’s 6 yard box and he was often hesitant to leave his line. A good player, but certainly no Jackson, Martyn or Speroni I suggest sums up his time with us. So far at least Sam Johnstone looks a good and younger upgrade

What I still don’t understand is why Jack Butland was allowed to leave on loan last season and not offered a contract for this year. In the end he was needed last season when instead Joe Whitworth had to step up. Jack was a one-time England international, younger than Guaita and having him and Johnstone challenging for the number 1 made more sense than extending Guaita’s contract by a year at his age. Now of course the club are scrambling around needing a good Premier League standard backup to Johnstone as Matthews is not it, Whitworth is not experienced enough yet and Goodman is out on loan. Another problem to solve along with several others in the squad. You have to sympathise with Roy being handed all these issues to cope with!

yes no player is entitled to always play - it's not like he lost his place to a youngster, Johnstone has played for England.

For me VG is clearly trying to get a free transfer back to Spain.
The problem he has is wages. When we signed him he was reported paid £60k a week, probably more than double what he was earning in Spain. A few years later he starts making noises that he wants to move back to Spain and suddenly signs a 2 year extension on improved terms. He did the same last year and another 1 year extension was offered, and accepted. At 36 i did think maybe we should have waited until the summer before this offer was made.

With his age and high wages he will not be in such high demand in Spain. I suspect the only way he will get a deal is if the club signing him don't need to pay a transfer fee.

However, if he wanted to finish his career in Spain he could have refused the last contract extension.

So now we have an unhappy goalie reportedly earning £4m a year.
He is clearly trying to force the club's hand before the Sept 1 transfer window close.

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fish mitten Chelmsford 09 Aug 23 10.21am
I'm in two minds. Been a good goalkeeper for us and his time in top level football is nearly at an end. I can see why he wants to play. We can't guarantee that. We wouldn't get much of a fee for him, so best for all parties to cancel his contract asap and make him a free agent. No pay-off as I presume he has been paid the last month or so when he has been refusing to work.
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Chelmsford 09 Aug 23 10.21am

I'm in two minds. Been a good goalkeeper for us and his time in top level football is nearly at an end. I can see why he wants to play. We can't guarantee that.

We wouldn't get much of a fee for him, so best for all parties to cancel his contract asap and make him a free agent. No pay-off as I presume he has been paid the last month or so when he has been refusing to work.

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Numbers Man Tulse Hill 09 Aug 23 10.37am
We will have to get Wayne Hennessy back he has done well for Wales. I agree Guaita leaving under a cloud is a real shame but we all have to take the rough with the smooth.
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Tulse Hill 09 Aug 23 10.37am

We will have to get Wayne Hennessy back he has done well for Wales. I agree Guaita leaving under a cloud is a real shame but we all have to take the rough with the smooth.

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newski63 Letchworth Garden City 09 Aug 23 12.50pm
What with Anderson, Guehi, Olise and Doucoure being sniffed around by 'Bigger Clubs' and Eze rumoured to be refusing a new contract I don't think this is what Roy signed up for! And now Guaita refusing to play!!Can you see Pep or Jurgen accepting this behaviour and what Ferggie would have done isn't printable, If Giaita has really refused to play Roy should just sling him out and have done with it. We don't need any premia-donnas at Selhurst
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Letchworth Garden City 09 Aug 23 12.50pm

What with Anderson, Guehi, Olise and Doucoure being sniffed around by 'Bigger Clubs' and Eze rumoured to be refusing a new contract I don't think this is what Roy signed up for!

And now Guaita refusing to play!!Can you see Pep or Jurgen accepting this behaviour and what Ferggie would have done isn't printable, If Giaita has really refused to play Roy should just sling him out and have done with it. We don't need any premia-donnas at Selhurst

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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 09 Aug 23 12.58pm
Originally posted by fish mitten I'm in two minds. Been a good goalkeeper for us and his time in top level football is nearly at an end. I can see why he wants to play. We can't guarantee that. We wouldn't get much of a fee for him, so best for all parties to cancel his contract asap and make him a free agent. No pay-off as I presume he has been paid the last month or so when he has been refusing to work. This is totally understandable, the issue is the way that he's gone about it. If he said "I'm 36, haven't got that long left in my career, I want to move" then nobody could begrudge him that. Refusing to play, however, is pathetic behaviour and really does tarnish his legacy here. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...
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Originally posted by fish mitten

I'm in two minds. Been a good goalkeeper for us and his time in top level football is nearly at an end. I can see why he wants to play. We can't guarantee that.

This is totally understandable, the issue is the way that he's gone about it.

If he said "I'm 36, haven't got that long left in my career, I want to move" then nobody could begrudge him that. Refusing to play, however, is pathetic behaviour and really does tarnish his legacy here.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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