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Midlands Eagle 05 Jul 23 7.43am
Originally posted by johnmcormick8 The thing is our Paddy knows our club as much as we do. You can't be here as long as he has and not get it. What does that have to do with his ability to manage in the Premier League
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Originally posted by johnmcormick8

The thing is our Paddy knows our club as much as we do. You can't be here as long as he has and not get it.

What does that have to do with his ability to manage in the Premier League

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berlinpalace berlin 05 Jul 23 7.44am
Originally posted by johnmcormick8 The thing is our Paddy knows our club as much as we do. You can't be here as long as he has and not get it. We are a family based club forever fighting way above are financial reality. If you want silverware glory euro nights best you try else where. But if you want a rollercoaster ride with your family and your mates strap yourself in Couple of rollercoaster rides in the news this week, one broke and another everyone got stuck upside down.
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berlin 05 Jul 23 7.44am

Originally posted by johnmcormick8

The thing is our Paddy knows our club as much as we do. You can't be here as long as he has and not get it. We are a family based club forever fighting way above are financial reality. If you want silverware glory euro nights best you try else where. But if you want a rollercoaster ride with your family and your mates strap yourself in

Couple of rollercoaster rides in the news this week, one broke and another everyone got stuck upside down.

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viveasheagle perth 05 Jul 23 8.50am
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle Ive known quite a few companies who, when someone has come up through the ranks / spent quite a few years in one environment (branch / office / facility - call it whatever you like) when the time comes for them to be Manager, they transfer them to a new facility / environment to re establish employee / Manager standing, in both the previous & new environment. I guess what I am saying is that although Paddy has his coaching badges, has been U18 manager, under 21 Manager & is no doubt learning on the job under Roy / Ray at a certain point in time it may be sensible for him to either leave the club for his first managerial position or transfer to another one of the Eagle football clubs in the group to establish himself as a Manager in that environment. Whether he returns couple seasons later / further down the road obviously remains to be seen but I feel its kinda like a Steven Gerrard thing where if one day he becomes Liverpool manager, with his background with the club no one will be surprised. I know where you are coming from with this but in other company/enviroments it is not always possible for someone to move locations to re-establish their position. Players get loaned out to continue their development and in some ways this maybe what is needed for Paddy but it is not going to happen at manager level due to the conflict's of interest that would be involved. I think he is going to make a really good manager (as i think James McCarthur will) but it will take a big leap of faith for the board to appoint him at Palace as his first full time managerial role.
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perth 05 Jul 23 8.50am

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Ive known quite a few companies who, when someone has come up through the ranks / spent quite a few years in one environment
(branch / office / facility - call it whatever you like) when the time comes for them to be Manager, they transfer them to a new facility / environment to re establish employee / Manager standing, in both the previous & new environment.

I guess what I am saying is that although Paddy has his coaching badges, has been U18 manager, under 21 Manager & is no doubt learning on the job under Roy / Ray at a certain point in time it may be sensible for him to either leave the club for his first managerial position or transfer to another one of the Eagle football clubs in the group to establish himself as a Manager in that environment.

Whether he returns couple seasons later / further down the road obviously remains to be seen but I feel its kinda like a Steven Gerrard thing where if one day he becomes Liverpool manager, with his background with the club no one will be surprised.

I know where you are coming from with this but in other company/enviroments it is not always possible for someone to move locations to re-establish their position. Players get loaned out to continue their development and in some ways this maybe what is needed for Paddy but it is not going to happen at manager level due to the conflict's of interest that would be involved.
I think he is going to make a really good manager (as i think James McCarthur will) but it will take a big leap of faith for the board to appoint him at Palace as his first full time managerial role.

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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Jul 23 9.03am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle What does that have to do with his ability to manage in the Premier League Yeah I of course love our club and I do actually think the way it is run is much preferable to many other models. You have to balance this with business and footballing sense however and again the assertion that we are some sort of complete unicorn, managed through some sort of mystic, Mormon-esque community that can nurture former players into PL managers ready to compete with the best in the world on an inferior budget is just a bit too out there for me. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Jul 23 9.03am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

What does that have to do with his ability to manage in the Premier League

Yeah I of course love our club and I do actually think the way it is run is much preferable to many other models. You have to balance this with business and footballing sense however and again the assertion that we are some sort of complete unicorn, managed through some sort of mystic, Mormon-esque community that can nurture former players into PL managers ready to compete with the best in the world on an inferior budget is just a bit too out there for me.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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Jimmy Doyle Butterworth 05 Jul 23 9.23am
I think Paddy has been put in the position of understudy to Roy. To be sure I wouldn't be surprised to see him step into the hotseat for the 24/25 season.
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Butterworth 05 Jul 23 9.23am

I think Paddy has been put in the position of understudy to Roy. To be sure I wouldn't be surprised to see him step into the hotseat for the 24/25 season.

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imashed surrey 05 Jul 23 9.45am
I think we are more spinning tea cups now days at Palace.
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surrey 05 Jul 23 9.45am

I think we are more spinning tea cups now days at Palace.

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MrRobbo Chaldon 05 Jul 23 10.03am
My gut says its madness to even think it. But, being pragmatic for a moment. This isn't a Lampard/Gerrard situation, he's had a youth gig, now a 1st team assistant. He's learning his trade under the most experienced manager in world football. That's not a bad place to start. There are other managers (e.g. Arteta) to come straight in to a PL job and do well (after learning under a great). Parish is risk adverse, he's not going to risk it all if there isn't a general agreement that he's ready etc. For his faults, with FdB and Vieria, Parish has shown that he's brave enough to make a change if needed. So if Paddy is struggling, Parish wont let him take us down
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Chaldon 05 Jul 23 10.03am

My gut says its madness to even think it.

But, being pragmatic for a moment.

This isn't a Lampard/Gerrard situation, he's had a youth gig, now a 1st team assistant.

He's learning his trade under the most experienced manager in world football. That's not a bad place to start.

There are other managers (e.g. Arteta) to come straight in to a PL job and do well (after learning under a great).

Parish is risk adverse, he's not going to risk it all if there isn't a general agreement that he's ready etc.

For his faults, with FdB and Vieria, Parish has shown that he's brave enough to make a change if needed. So if Paddy is struggling, Parish wont let him take us down

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 05 Jul 23 10.07am
I think it is Roys job not to train him up, but to observe Paddy, and give an honest report to Parish in the new year whether he is good enough to be No1, whatever your opinion of Roy i dont think anyone can doubt his honesty. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 05 Jul 23 10.07am

I think it is Roys job not to train him up, but to observe Paddy, and give an honest report to Parish in the new year whether he is good enough to be No1, whatever your opinion of Roy i dont think anyone can doubt his honesty.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Putitout Oxford 05 Jul 23 10.19am
Watching the first training session the camera, made a lot of Paddy, with Roy, obviously working closely together, so the step up for Paddy is real, and he will have hands on from here on. Come next season if things go well, Paddy is going to be right in the picture.
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Oxford 05 Jul 23 10.19am

Watching the first training session the camera, made a lot of Paddy, with Roy, obviously working closely together, so the step up for Paddy is real, and he will have hands on from here on.
Come next season if things go well, Paddy is going to be right in the picture.

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Painter Croydon 05 Jul 23 10.22am
Originally posted by Putitout Watching the first training session the camera, made a lot of Paddy, with Roy, obviously working closely together, so the step up for Paddy is real, and he will have hands on from here on. Come next season if things go well, Paddy is going to be right in the picture. He isn’t.
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Croydon 05 Jul 23 10.22am

Originally posted by Putitout

He isn’t.

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A1969Eagle Redhill 05 Jul 23 10.33am
BRING IT ON Paddy, you have my vote next season. Ive watched your career and your progress through the ranks and our Under 18's/21's under your managemnt have been impressive. When you were a player, but out injured, you used to stand where the players came out, when they came back at half time, I watched you motivate players. You are Palace through and through, so hope at long last as with the Academy set up, we have a decent future plan and Paddy will get his chance..... Originally posted by Jimmy Doyle I think Paddy has been put in the position of understudy to Roy. To be sure I wouldn't be surprised to see him step into the hotseat for the 24/25 season.
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Redhill 05 Jul 23 10.33am

BRING IT ON

Paddy, you have my vote next season.
Ive watched your career and your progress through the ranks and our Under 18's/21's under your managemnt have been impressive.
When you were a player, but out injured, you used to stand where the players came out, when they came back at half time, I watched you motivate players. You are Palace through and through, so hope at long last as with the Academy set up, we have a decent future plan and Paddy will get his chance.....

Originally posted by Jimmy Doyle

I think Paddy has been put in the position of understudy to Roy. To be sure I wouldn't be surprised to see him step into the hotseat for the 24/25 season.

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Dubai Eagle 05 Jul 23 10.55am
What I thought was interesting was that in the games at the end of last season, often around the 60 minute mark, Roy, Ray & Paddy would often go into a bit of a huddle, have a few minutes chat about what was going on, what to do next - obviously as the Manager only Roy could make the ultimate decision but it was good to see them at least discussing the options. (Maybe they were just having a chat about where to go for a beer after the game, but it didnt look like it) Originally posted by Putitout Watching the first training session the camera, made a lot of Paddy, with Roy, obviously working closely together, so the step up for Paddy is real, and he will have hands on from here on. Come next season if things go well, Paddy is going to be right in the picture.
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05 Jul 23 10.55am

What I thought was interesting was that in the games at the end of last season, often around the 60 minute mark, Roy, Ray & Paddy would often go into a bit of a huddle, have a few minutes chat about what was going on, what to do next - obviously as the Manager only Roy could make the ultimate decision but it was good to see them at least discussing the options.

(Maybe they were just having a chat about where to go for a beer after the game, but it didnt look like it)

Originally posted by Putitout

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