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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
i reckon an Academy makes sense in League One or the Championship. There is not much space in the Prem for untried question-mark kids. No matter how brilliant they are. Seriously?!? So where would Zaha, Wan-Bissaka, Mitchell and a whole host of others have come from without the academy? Then there's PL2 Div 1 & Div 2 with our U23s playing in Div 1 and what about our sensational U18s? Also, a few seasons ago the Prem was littered with Palace academy graduates like Moses, Clyne and several others. Our academy makes perfect sense and even more so now it's Cat 1.
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Originally posted by adrian b
Players have to live within 90 minutes (by public transport) of their youth team. The best way around this is to move a lad into the area of a club. The club do have (or certainly used to) a register of 'foster homes' in the cachement area for the younger players , usually older Mum's whose children have left home. The club pays them a monthly fee for bed and breakfast (all other meals at the Academy) and laundry etc., with the added bonus of them being able to provided a home-from-home experience and keep an eye on what they get up to!
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Originally posted by becky
The club do have (or certainly used to) a register of 'foster homes' in the cachement area for the younger players , usually older Mum's whose children have left home. The club pays them a monthly fee for bed and breakfast (all other meals at the Academy) and laundry etc., with the added bonus of them being able to provided a home-from-home experience and keep an eye on what they get up to! Nanny McFee
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Just my view, but the ' real money ' is spent at a higher level than the 8-17 age groups. But the improved Academy gives those age groups something tangible to aim for as opposed to the rough and ready facilities the club has had in the past. As for spending more money on youth scouts, well I can only speak from experience but I was only paid expenses when I was one ( not for Palace, I might add ). At the lower age groups I've seen kids go to several clubs without making it for one reason or another, it's a real ' churn ' at those levels, and indeed further up the age scales...where you have the Rak-Sakyis and Hannans of this world. As a CAT 1 Academy Palace will receive around £4.75M from the EFL / PL each year to fund the running of the Academy. The Academy is there to develop players for the future of the game (not just for Palace) hence the funding by the EFL/PL.
To give an indication of numbers of youth players, I think a CAT 1 Academy can register around 250 players within all age groups with the PL. Once the fixed costs are covered / paid for the only running costs will be the day to day running expenses (food and maintenance), Coach travel to away games for the U16s to U18's - Many of the Academy coaches / physios / analysts / education dept are part time and coach in the evenings whilst doing other day jobs (external or within the club) or studying degrees. Kit & training kit will be covered by the sponsors. Only major salaries to cover will be the 'Heads of' who run each Academy section. A couple of high value sales of Academy graduates and the initial build outlay will be recovered and Palace will be sitting on a very valuable future asset. Not sure if any of the above also affects FFP as well.
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Originally posted by Isley46
As a CAT 1 Academy Palace will receive around £4.75M from the EFL / PL each year to fund the running of the Academy. The Academy is there to develop players for the future of the game (not just for Palace) hence the funding by the EFL/PL.
To give an indication of numbers of youth players, I think a CAT 1 Academy can register around 250 players within all age groups with the PL. Once the fixed costs are covered / paid for the only running costs will be the day to day running expenses (food and maintenance), Coach travel to away games for the U16s to U18's - Many of the Academy coaches / physios / analysts / education dept are part time and coach in the evenings whilst doing other day jobs (external or within the club) or studying degrees. Kit & training kit will be covered by the sponsors. Only major salaries to cover will be the 'Heads of' who run each Academy section. A couple of high value sales of Academy graduates and the initial build outlay will be recovered and Palace will be sitting on a very valuable future asset. Not sure if any of the above also affects FFP as well.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Nanny McFee She's already working on the League side
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Originally posted by doombear
agreed - excellent post - I will re-read this information, try and absorb it and tell other people about it as if I knew something about it
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