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Originally posted by HKOwen
Mayor of London tweeted he was very sad that Sir David " passed away".He was outraged at the brutal killing of George Floyd which in his opinion rightly ignited fury around the world. I hope he at least has the decency to not attend the funeral. Edited by HKOwen (20 Oct 2021 9.33am) Seems a lot of people pass away on his watch, I'm surprised he noticed to busy sending birthday congratulations to the Mayor of Mogadishu.
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Khan should be ashamed of himself Sir David did not "pass away" as he states. He was brutally murdered by one of Khan's muslim brotherhood. He is a despicable little man who thinks he is better than the rest. Along with Abbott, Lammy, Rayner and the rest of the left wing cabal. As a country we have lurched far to far on the PC, woke, BLM et al agenda. Sponsored by the BBC, Sky and all of the left wing media. Yes I am a Daily Mail reader but I am also English and proud to be so and I do not want my country to be dragged into the hell this lot would bring. Rant over and I feel better for it.
I am enjoying being back at Selhurst and having a beer with my mates just like we have done for the past 40 years. Through Thick and thin we stick with our club. Not chairman, players or managers, OUR CLUB! |
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We have been at the gates of hell for a while.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Mayor of London tweeted he was very sad that Sir David " passed away".He was outraged at the brutal killing of George Floyd which in his opinion rightly ignited fury around the world. Edited by HKOwen (20 Oct 2021 9.33am) If that's passing away I don't want to know what a bad way to go looks like.
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Originally posted by georgenorman
I notice that you do not address the part where it says: "52% of Muslims said they 'did not know' who was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. 31% said the 'American Government', 7% said 'Jews', and just 4% said al-Qaeda. No because it wasn't central to the report itself. You just picked that up because it supports your narrative, whilst ignoring all the overwhelmingly positive aspects. You might not read the Mail, but this is typical of how they wind people up.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No because it was central to the report itself. You just picked that up because it supports your narrative, whilst ignoring all the overwhelmingly positive aspects. You might not read the Mail, but this is typical of how they wind people up. make a list of muslim countries with a good track record on .... - the tolerance of gays ( and their human rights ) - freedom of religion ( or the ability to be an atheist without getting murdered ) - womens rights - polygamy etc etc. You have basically said ''not all muslims are like that'' ....my reply, all muslim countries are.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No because it was central to the report itself. You just picked that up because it supports your narrative, whilst ignoring all the overwhelmingly positive aspects. You might not read the Mail, but this is typical of how they wind people up. If it is central to the report, why not comment on it, or are you paying a tribute to the Grauniad.
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The problem is that there are certain realities that we have to face and deal with, rather than wishlist. Immigration policies can be looked at (but since when does government listen to concerns there, even post Brexit). In addition there's freedom of speech, so regardless of what we feel about peoples beliefs as long as they stay with the law, they are free to their opinions. Where people go too far, there's both plenty of successes, but also unfortunately plausible deniability of intent, for those who are on the radar of PREVENT and the like. Still, in any demographic the vast majority of people are peaceful. Working from where we are, improving community relations, combined with increased infiltration both online and offline of groups that form part of the patchwork of a path to warped ideologies would be useful. I'm sure we're already doing both to some extent. Beyond that we need to take another look at social media. Many of that accounts stoking societal division aren't even in this country or from people who even hold those beliefs anyway. They're looking to pick at other cultures faultlines. The especially tribal become so linear and limited in thought and nomenclature that it's hardly difficult to emulate, yet still acts to indoctrinate. Sharia courts are a bad idea as they firm up the insular idea with people that they can be part of a country but adhere to their own laws or customs.. and gradually expect others to follow. We see this kind of backward behaviour outside of schools where there are serious threats due to the teaching of same sex relationships, and where there are images of Mohammad shown. And crimes that clearly have in part an 'us and them' religious basis. It's fine to be accepting of faiths, but not to the point of, through fear, kowtowing to societies that are unhealthily restrictive. Edited by BlueJay (20 Oct 2021 5.41pm)
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getting back to the subject of the OP,
Edited by PalazioVecchio (20 Oct 2021 4.48pm)
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
getting back to the subject of the OP, why did the stabber choose Mr Amess ? he seemed like a decent chap. Not exactly a Tommy Robinson. Edited by PalazioVecchio (20 Oct 2021 4.48pm) Well, according to that devout muslim and expert in islamic terrorism, Anjem Choudary, it was because he was a member of the Conservative party and supportive of Israel.
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
getting back to the subject of the OP,
Edited by PalazioVecchio (20 Oct 2021 4.48pm) When tribalism (which can certainly be aided by religion) reaches such a malignant place, those outside of the tribe become much of the muchness, all 'fair game', so it just comes down to making an impact. The specifics of Amess' beliefs were likely as arbitrary as the Manchester bomber's victims. By all accounts Amess was a really decent chap. Same for Jo Cox. Nothing she believed should lead to anyone being filled with such hatred for her, but she was slayed anyway, and groups like National Action (structured similarly to Islamic terror groups) instead of condemning the attack endorsed it, saying "only 649 MPs to go!" , "Don't let this man's sacrifice go in vain," and adapted their site title to "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain!" (Mair's words). These c***s are all cut from the same cloth and now that MPs know Jo Cox' murder wasn't a one off, they have little option but to get better at lifting the stones these people crawl under. Unfortunately that will likely involve bringing in new laws that impact all of us, and end up being misused just as all new powers are. Edited by BlueJay (20 Oct 2021 5.39pm)
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Well, according to that devout muslim and expert in islamic terrorism, Anjem Choudary, it was because he was a member of the Conservative party and supportive of Israel.
Is that what he said? That's a laugh. The man has put enough hatred and bile out into the world that even if you sewed his mouth shut he'd unfortunately still be inspiration for future misery and murderous acts.
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