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Palace Passion Bromley, South London 25 May 21 7.07pm | |
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Us signing a American today got me thinking. Does our American team still exist? I never hear anything about them but wasn't they suppose to feed us with any good player that came through there setup?
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McCorry Bromley 25 May 21 8.32pm | |
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Wilbraham413 26 May 21 2.03am | |
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It's weird because soccer in the US is only popular among hipsters, leftists, and academics. And it's only played in wealthy suburbs. Working class people have zero interest in it, and never play it. Americans love front runners, so fans of english football choose between MU, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham. Probably most go for Liverpool, Chelsea, and Man U, in that order. My boss told me on day one that he's a fan of english football. I'm like, oh, really, me too! What club? He says Chelsea. (He's from the west coast, hipster Oregon.) He asks me what club I support. I say Crystal Palace. He gives me a totally blank stare and has no idea what to say. Like I'm sure he has no idea that Palace is a PL club. Chelsea has Pulisic, so I get why they'd have more fans these days, since he's the best player ever to come out of the US.
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Scoots Davidson, NC 26 May 21 2.18pm | |
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I have the same happen to me. Located in NC everyone is Liverpool or Man U. People look at me like I have 3 eyes and a horn coming out of my head when I say CP.
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inge Oppdal 26 May 21 3.34pm | |
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I`ve heard several times that soccer in the US is popular among the latinos, who are used to "futbol" from their home countries? Originally posted by Wilbraham413
It's weird because soccer in the US is only popular among hipsters, leftists, and academics. And it's only played in wealthy suburbs. Working class people have zero interest in it, and never play it. Edited by inge (26 May 2021 3.35pm)
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nairb75 Baltimore 26 May 21 6.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Wilbraham413
It's weird because soccer in the US is only popular among hipsters, leftists, and academics. And it's only played in wealthy suburbs. Working class people have zero interest in it, and never play it. Americans love front runners, so fans of english football choose between MU, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham. Probably most go for Liverpool, Chelsea, and Man U, in that order. My boss told me on day one that he's a fan of english football. I'm like, oh, really, me too! What club? He says Chelsea. (He's from the west coast, hipster Oregon.) He asks me what club I support. I say Crystal Palace. He gives me a totally blank stare and has no idea what to say. Like I'm sure he has no idea that Palace is a PL club. Chelsea has Pulisic, so I get why they'd have more fans these days, since he's the best player ever to come out of the US. academics???? we don't have hipsters on the east coast, outside of NY or Boston. there are plenty of working class americans who like the sport. most people like front runners - that's not an american thing.
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Scoots Davidson, NC 26 May 21 7.11pm | |
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most people like front runners - that's not an american thing. One of the most accurate posts ever! Edited by Scoots (26 May 2021 7.12pm)
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Daddyorc Atlantic Highlands, NJ 26 May 21 7.21pm | |
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Fortunately living in NYC we have a Crystal Palace contingent that goes to the Football Factory (Legends) for games (pre-covid, it's underground so basically a virus heaven). Yes, there's only about a dozen of us there for any one match, and almost all English expats, but it's nice to have a group together. BTW, soccer is becoming much more popular among the youth. The FIFA game makes that the case. As well as years of starting players out early in AYSO. I'd say it is more popular than hockey now, and will continue to grow. Also, when the world cup comes here again it'll be huge.
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nairb75 Baltimore 26 May 21 7.28pm | |
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Originally posted by Daddyorc
Fortunately living in NYC we have a Crystal Palace contingent that goes to the Football Factory (Legends) for games (pre-covid, it's underground so basically a virus heaven). Yes, there's only about a dozen of us there for any one match, and almost all English expats, but it's nice to have a group together. BTW, soccer is becoming much more popular among the youth. The FIFA game makes that the case. As well as years of starting players out early in AYSO. I'd say it is more popular than hockey now, and will continue to grow. Also, when the world cup comes here again it'll be huge. i am not a MLS fan but it's actually a respectable league at this point. and the ratings and attendance are very good. i'm a youth coach - both my boys are in travel programs but the coaching and development is very subpar. that's our biggest problem.
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CT Charlie 26 May 21 8.19pm | |
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I've often wondered what would happen if the owners made a big push to sign members of the U.S. mens national team. Given the team colors, location and mascot, there's a chance that having 3-6 U.S. players on the squad would attract more U.S. eyeballs. On the other hand, depending on the caliber of the players, it might erode support from the Holmesdale faithful. Having played a year of schoolboy football in England, and four years of it at a U.S. university, I've been a fan for over 50 years. I made quite an effort to see World Cup games in the U.S. in 1994. Still, I didn't begin following the Prem, and Palace in particular, until 2015. I literally went through the process of choosing a squad, and it was the fervor of the Palace fans which won me over.
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Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 26 May 21 11.01pm | |
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Originally posted by CT Charlie
I've often wondered what would happen if the owners made a big push to sign members of the U.S. mens national team. Given the team colors, location and mascot, there's a chance that having 3-6 U.S. players on the squad would attract more U.S. eyeballs. On the other hand, depending on the caliber of the players, it might erode support from the Holmesdale faithful. Having played a year of schoolboy football in England, and four years of it at a U.S. university, I've been a fan for over 50 years. I made quite an effort to see World Cup games in the U.S. in 1994. Still, I didn't begin following the Prem, and Palace in particular, until 2015. I literally went through the process of choosing a squad, and it was the fervor of the Palace fans which won me over. No doubt someone will correct me, but I'm fairly certain that Oxford Utd actually tried (I guess Robert Maxwell was pulling the strings)in the early 1980s to sign up the whole US men's national side only to have it rejected outright by the Football League.
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Motorskills Houston 28 May 21 7.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Wilbraham413
It's weird because soccer in the US is only popular among hipsters, leftists, and academics. And it's only played in wealthy suburbs. Working class people have zero interest in it, and never play it. Americans love front runners, so fans of english football choose between MU, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham. Probably most go for Liverpool, Chelsea, and Man U, in that order. My boss told me on day one that he's a fan of english football. I'm like, oh, really, me too! What club? He says Chelsea. (He's from the west coast, hipster Oregon.) He asks me what club I support. I say Crystal Palace. He gives me a totally blank stare and has no idea what to say. Like I'm sure he has no idea that Palace is a PL club. Chelsea has Pulisic, so I get why they'd have more fans these days, since he's the best player ever to come out of the US. It's definitely more complex than "hipsters, leftists, and academics". Having travelled around much of the USA for the past couple of decades, the growth of regular people being interested in the sport has been impressive, driven by several different factors including a level of dissatisfaction with the Big Three sports. Here in Houston, support of football (MLS) is definitely growing in the Latino community, likely true in Miami, NYC, L.A. and the rest. There's no doubt that the failure of the USMNT to qualify for the last World Cup was a massive blow, but I expect that to be a relatively small bump in the road. While I think football (soccer) is unlikely to ever compete with basketball as a street sport (you don't see many "jumpers for goalposts" pick-up games), I think a bigger hurdle is that youth tuition is prohibitively expensive in the first place. The game really needs to try and do something about that, a successful / interested USA would benefit everyone, hopefully support can improve for the kids.
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