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‘16 year old Greta Thunberg is too young to make up her own mind and being exploited’ scream the exact same people who said that 15 year old Shamima Begum knew exactly what she was doing and should be treated as an adult... At this point if you don’t believe that climate change is a very threat to the way we continue to live you have not been paying attention. A lot of people on this forum aren’t big fans of immigration but once countries like Bangladesh start flooding those people are going to have to go somewhere. Why not support political action now to avoid all those people being displaced?
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Originally posted by SavoyTruffle
‘16 year old Greta Thunberg is too young to make up her own mind and being exploited’ scream the exact same people who said that 15 year old Shamima Begum knew exactly what she was doing and should be treated as an adult... At this point if you don’t believe that climate change is a very threat to the way we continue to live you have not been paying attention. A lot of people on this forum aren’t big fans of immigration but once countries like Bangladesh start flooding those people are going to have to go somewhere. Why not support political action now to avoid all those people being displaced? Have you really thought that through? Immigration from Bangladesh or indeed any other relatively poor country is going to happen anyway. Indeed as development and help increases their living standards then at a set point a higher percentage of 'bangladeshes' will be able to afford the trip to Europe to earn more. Work on climate change now isn't going to seriously affect anything in the environment for decades anyway.....it would be nothing but slowing down the rate of increase for a long time. As climate change worsens it's going to affect the poorest who can't move so easily.....So the poorest won't be affording Europe anyway and would be moving within their own continent. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2019 10.58pm)
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So because we aren’t going to see the benefits for a long time we shouldn’t start now? The major cathedrals of Europe often took centuries to complete. Set the wheel in motion now so future generations can feel the benefit. And as those places within their continent fill up, the next rung up the economic ladder will move to less densely populated areas / areas with more opportunities and so forth. If we can do something to encourage people to stay where they are I say go for it. Additionally as we decrease our dependancy on gas / oil, we become less reliant on fossil fuels from the Middle East, which means the profit margins for Western intervention wars decrease, which means less migration as people can stay in their homes as they aren’t reduced to rubble. Win, win as far as I see it. Edited by SavoyTruffle (24 Sep 2019 11.24pm)
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Originally posted by SavoyTruffle
‘16 year old Greta Thunberg is too young to make up her own mind and being exploited’ scream the exact same people who said that 15 year old Shamima Begum knew exactly what she was doing and should be treated as an adult...
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just saw Greta speech on the telly. right , that's it. i am : -buying a guzzler 4x4 car.
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Originally posted by martin2412
If this supposed global warming is being created by people, then we need to reduce the number of people in the world. About time for WWIII anyone ? Can we own France after the next world war. Something in it for us next time.
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Greta: 'something, something, how dare you!...you crushed my bag of fudge!' (tear)
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Originally posted by SavoyTruffle
So because we aren’t going to see the benefits for a long time we shouldn’t start now? The major cathedrals of Europe often took centuries to complete. Set the wheel in motion now so future generations can feel the benefit. And as those places within their continent fill up, the next rung up the economic ladder will move to less densely populated areas / areas with more opportunities and so forth. If we can do something to encourage people to stay where they are I say go for it. Additionally as we decrease our dependancy on gas / oil, we become less reliant on fossil fuels from the Middle East, which means the profit margins for Western intervention wars decrease, which means less migration as people can stay in their homes as they aren’t reduced to rubble. Win, win as far as I see it. Edited by SavoyTruffle (24 Sep 2019 11.24pm) If someone feels that climate change is going to devastate others before them, their sense of urgency will be proportionate to how they feel about those people.
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Originally posted by Matov
With some elements on the right, she's treated this way because she's differently brained. It's clear from the language used ('has many mental illnesses' etc) that's behind a lot of it. And with elements of the left the same attribute instead becomes a cloak of sorts protecting her from criticism. The perils and pitfalls of viewing others' humanity through a political lens.
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Have you really thought that through? Immigration from Bangladesh or indeed any other relatively poor country is going to happen anyway. Indeed as development and help increases their living standards then at a set point a higher percentage of 'bangladeshes' will be able to afford the trip to Europe to earn more. Work on climate change now isn't going to seriously affect anything in the environment for decades anyway.....it would be nothing but slowing down the rate of increase for a long time. As climate change worsens it's going to affect the poorest who can't move so easily.....So the poorest won't be affording Europe anyway and would be moving within their own continent. Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Sep 2019 10.58pm) Most migration is internal. It's not just a question of means but also because most people like having their family and friends around. Climate change is already causing resource scarcity, conflict and refugees. See Lake Niger for example, or the islands affected by rising sea levels and increases in ferocity and frequency of typhoons.
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
just saw Greta speech on the telly. right , that's it. i am : -buying a guzzler 4x4 car.
What a petulant response. Tempted to say 'man up'.
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Originally posted by tome
Most migration is internal. It's not just a question of means but also because most people like having their family and friends around. Climate change is already causing resource scarcity, conflict and refugees. See Lake Niger for example, or the islands affected by rising sea levels and increases in ferocity and frequency of typhoons.
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