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Croydonlad Flag sydenham 05 Nov 17 7.23pm Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

Ok,
Hodgson is doing all he can do
Tactically he's as good as anyone in the league
But , just as with England in the end it comes down to how good the players are
Haha should have scored , no excuses , and so should Sakho
Both are very important to Palace and are invaluable but both need to be better
Zaha has improved a 1000% in the past 18 months , but today cost us 1 and maybe 3 points , Sakho needs to be braver in the air , a genius on the floor .
As for Schlupp and Sako ~ Not good enough at this level , I despair when I see them on the pitch

 

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Dangermouse Flag Hastings 05 Nov 17 7.30pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Last week he won us a point, definitely. Today if he'd have scored........

Who knows?

 


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Croydonlad Flag sydenham 05 Nov 17 7.41pm Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

Yes, but thats what forwards do , they score goals .
He doesn't score nowhere near enough
And great players do not miss open goals
I see him on here being compared to greats , he's not a great
Hes a good premiership player , thats it

 

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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 05 Nov 17 7.41pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

in my eyes you cannot & shouldnt apportion any blame to zaha at all, hes earnt that level of respect from the fanbase.

in a few weeks we will be lucky enough to not see schlupp or sako in the 1st team.

 


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Dangermouse Flag Hastings 05 Nov 17 7.46pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

Originally posted by Croydonlad

Yes, but thats what forwards do , they score goals .
He doesn't score nowhere near enough
And great players do not miss open goals
I see him on here being compared to greats , he's not a great
Hes a good premiership player , thats it

Wilf is not and has never been a natural in front of goal. He's a very good Premier league player and if you can name anyone that's never missed an open goal, I'd be amazed.

 


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Dangermouse Flag Hastings 05 Nov 17 7.47pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

In defence of Schlupp he's doing the job he's been asked to do. He's sacrificing his game for the good of team shape and defending.

 


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adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 05 Nov 17 8.16pm Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

Palace , rock bottom, against one of the league's best and guess what? they could have won. And guess what? there are some do called supporters who cant see that. Shame

 

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adrian b Flag Landrindod, Wales 05 Nov 17 8.17pm Send a Private Message to adrian b Add adrian b as a friend

Palace , rock bottom, against one of the league's best and guess what? they could have won. And guess what? there are some do called supporters who cant see that. Shame

 

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Forum Ref Flag Carshalton 05 Nov 17 8.30pm Send a Private Message to Forum Ref Add Forum Ref as a friend

I'd never in a million years blame or moan at Wilf for his miss today.

Firstly he is not a striker, that is not his natural position. Secondly, he has strength has never been as a natural finisher. He is a winger, and his strengths are his outrageous skills, ball control and ability to take on defenders and beat them.

He has dug us out of many holes over the years, and he's our only real 'maverick' player that can genuinely turn a game for us.

Yes of course he should have scored, no disputes there - anyone who is playing at pro level should score that opportunity... BUT players are all human, and like us they all make mistakes.

Even the greats miss such chances, look here at Messi for example!
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One thing for sure is that you know that no one will be more gutted that Wilf that he missed that chance. The lad has so much passion and love for our club, that will have hurt him, just as much as it hurt us.

As for Sakho's chance, that was another glorious opportunity for us.

Again, I love Sakho, and no one can really dig him out too much about the miss, but the reality with his chance, you can see he slightly bottled it. He took his eye off the ball as saw the keeper coming and knew that he was going to get clattered. As a result he didn't get any real contact on the ball.

If he's braver in that instance, he scores, it's that simple.

I will agree that his main weakness does indeed to seem to be aerially - on the deck he's top notch, and his distribution is extremely slick. His aerial ability or strength doesn't quite match the high quality of his other attributes, but in general if you play him alongside someone like Dann who is an attacker of the ball aerially, it's fine defensively as they compliment each other well (one attacks, one sweeps).

Schlupp gives effort, and is a tryer. He does an ok job in general. Again he's played out of position most of the time so it's always hard to be fair on someone who's not playing their natural game and is sacrificing that to help the team.

As for Sako, I think we'll all agree that he's simply not good enough to play in the side full stop, let alone lead the line.

I know he had a great record at Wolves, but to me, looking at him physically I personally think he looks to heavy and cumbersome.

He certainly was not as 'big' as his current shape when at Wolves, which I'd suggest must also be a contributing factor to his struggle to perform (especially even more so that we're all told that PL players have never been fitter and or cover more metres than ever before).
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At the end of the day, it's been another gutting result for us.

We've again not got we deserved, and unfortunately it's becoming a bit too frequent now, which makes it a real concern when you live in hope that 'luck' evens itself out over the course of a season (as the old saying goes).

The big worry for me is that we're playing pretty well at the moment, and sadly not getting the points on the board that should merit that.

I know that we'll play badly, and again we won't get points, so that then makes me question - if you don't get points when you do play well, you aren't ever going to get any points full stop are you (unless you're one of the top sides, who have those winning traits of being able to win games still when playing poorly)?

The underlying issue is as we all know, we need that striker that will tuck some of those chances away.

Until that happens and or Benteke returns and or more importantly finds some form I can't see it changing any time soon, and one thing we don't have from here is time, we need points now from the next match onwards.

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gerry theagle Flag newbury 05 Nov 17 9.06pm Send a Private Message to gerry theagle Add gerry theagle as a friend

Wow,that about sums the day up.....great post

 

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Croydonlad Flag sydenham 05 Nov 17 9.11pm Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

Originally posted by adrian b

Palace , rock bottom, against one of the league's best and guess what? they could have won. And guess what? there are some do called supporters who cant see that. Shame

And guess what ~ we didn't
And guess what ~ Thats why we are rock bottom

 

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Jamesey Flag Wandsworth 05 Nov 17 9.20pm Send a Private Message to Jamesey Add Jamesey as a friend

Schlupp was dreadful...he consistently gave the ball away, passed to a white shirt and should not have been on the pitch. No surprise Leicester gladly unloaded him At least Sako only had a short time on the field to be offside.

 


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