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bashy2 Flag London 22 Jun 17 10.57pm Send a Private Message to bashy2 Add bashy2 as a friend

I'm well happy with Fdb as manager will be interesting to see who he brings with him as in transfers bit concerned about his lack of premiership experience but if he starts well would be great

 

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kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 22 Jun 17 11.01pm Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

well that's £30 on Dyche down the pan

 


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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 22 Jun 17 11.03pm Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

Originally posted by bashy2

I'm well happy with Fdb as manager will be interesting to see who he brings with him as in transfers bit concerned about his lack of premiership experience but if he starts well would be great

I'm sure Frank will be on the blower to Ronald Koeman to get the lowdown on the premier league.

 

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chalkmate Flag Shortlands 22 Jun 17 11.05pm Send a Private Message to chalkmate Add chalkmate as a friend

schmokin'

 


Joe Hart looks angrier than a kid with no Easter eggs, David Silva looks like he won't smile for a week. Vincent Kompany has taken his shirt off and looks like he might just start a fight with himself. The visiting dressing room will be a glum place.

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palaceken Flag 22 Jun 17 11.18pm

Originally posted by Petereagle

Nad another, but thta's my lot for the moment!

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Don't get what you are on about mate. Nothing about who is his assistant on any of your links !

 

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palaceken Flag 22 Jun 17 11.20pm

Says on news now he is to be announced next week as manager . Zzzzz&#378;

 

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ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 22 Jun 17 11.22pm Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


I'm going to go Willoesque on you now. The combination of Mariner and Bill Rafferty, at Plymouth, rivalled that of Warboys and Bannister at Bristol Rovers and Bruce Bannister went on the play for Plymouth. It is only fair to point out that I did spend most of my teens and early to mid-twenties in the Plymouth area.

do you remember a 3-3 draw at Selhurst back in the 74-75 season in div 3 when the green army had about 2000 in the old Whitehorse and three argyle fans ran on the pitch at half time one with a leather jacket and a green and white striped scarf and dribbled the ball up to the Holmesdale end to all round booing before booting the ball into the goal at the Holmesdale end? us in our second season in red and blue stripes and Plymouth (with rafferty and mariner, and maybe david kemp?) in green and white stripes. interesting that argyle, Bristol rovers and Cardiff used to bring a big mob of nutters with them - nice that Cardiff have got up to the level the size of the club deserves, be nice to see the other two clubs yo-yoing between champ and league 1 rather than slumming it in league 2 - proper big city clubs with hard core fans.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 22 Jun 17 11.36pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Can't wait for this to be done and dusted. Exciting times ahead. Give de Boer time and we can have an academy to be proud of.

He'd need to be here bl00dy years and years to turn that into a success. I said on the Frank philosophy thread that unless the premier league change the rules and demand more British Isles players then it just doesn't happen. The big clubs don't help by stocking up on the best when they could get a chance at a lower half club but it's still a tough ask these days. Young foreign players learn abroad and then come here when everything is honed. It's just too demanding here to get that honing. Zaha first played in 2010. After 3 years he was at a high champ standard but nowhere near Prem standard. Think how much further back he'd be trying to get into a prem squad. Maybe he would never actually fulfill his potential. Not his fault, it's the system.

Frank could get better value on the continent though. Cheaper potential with resale value. I'd bet he knows of multiple more players and contacts than we do. The Europa League must be full of them. You just need to know what they offer and who can fit into your set up. It could do wonders for us if this area prospers. We must be getting to the point where we'd struggle to get anywhere near to paying 2 good enough players for each position at the rate we're paying, even if we could afford transfer fees, so perhaps it's a positive rather than a relegation in waiting.

And that's us contributing to the problem because of the system.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (22 Jun 2017 11.41pm)

 


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comeonyoueagles20 Flag caterham 22 Jun 17 11.59pm Send a Private Message to comeonyoueagles20 Add comeonyoueagles20 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

He'd need to be here bl00dy years and years to turn that into a success. I said on the Frank philosophy thread that unless the premier league change the rules and demand more British Isles players then it just doesn't happen. The big clubs don't help by stocking up on the best when they could get a chance at a lower half club but it's still a tough ask these days. Young foreign players learn abroad and then come here when everything is honed. It's just too demanding here to get that honing. Zaha first played in 2010. After 3 years he was at a high champ standard but nowhere near Prem standard. Think how much further back he'd be trying to get into a prem squad. Maybe he would never actually fulfill his potential. Not his fault, it's the system.

Frank could get better value on the continent though. Cheaper potential with resale value. I'd bet he knows of multiple more players and contacts than we do. The Europa League must be full of them. You just need to know what they offer and who can fit into your set up. It could do wonders for us if this area prospers. We must be getting to the point where we'd struggle to get anywhere near to paying 2 good enough players for each position at the rate we're paying, even if we could afford transfer fees, so perhaps it's a positive rather than a relegation in waiting.

And that's us contributing to the problem because of the system.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (22 Jun 2017 11.41pm)

After 3 years zaha was easily one of the best players in the championship and more than good enough for the prem.

 

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iheartcpfc Flag SE25 23 Jun 17 12.03am Send a Private Message to iheartcpfc Add iheartcpfc as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

What are your expectations if de Boer appointed ?

I say first target 40pts anything else a bonus in his 1st season .

13th and above.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 23 Jun 17 12.07am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by comeonyoueagles20

After 3 years zaha was easily one of the best players in the championship and more than good enough for the prem.

Didn't do a lot for Cardiff and when he came back there was no end product. We were scoring about 40 a season with Zaha assisting about 3.

My point however is that if we had a Zaha now, he wouldn't be a Zaha because he wouldn't get that championship learning. You get there by playing. A player at the level from 2010 and about 4+ years after wouldn't get in. Sad but true. It's the system, not the player that's at fault.

He could earn his stripes out on loan but I think we know he likes to feel at home. Must take more character than we appreciate, having to be loaned out here there and everywhere.

 


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Petereagle Flag Brockley 23 Jun 17 12.12am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Didn't do a lot for Cardiff and when he came back there was no end product. We were scoring about 40 a season with Zaha assisting about 3.

My point however is that if we had a Zaha now, he wouldn't be a Zaha because he wouldn't get that championship learning. You get there by playing. A player at the level from 2010 and about 4+ years after wouldn't get in. Sad but true. It's the system, not the player that's at fault.

He could earn his stripes out on loan but I think we know he likes to feel at home. Must take more character than we appreciate, having to be loaned out here there and everywhere.

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