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First of all, twcpfc, well done for coming on as a spokesperson for the HF, either in an official or an unofficial capacity. I was a supporter of the HF but no more. I felt there was an entitlement to the seat moves but I supported you still. But the banners against Arsenal and in the home game after were my tipping point. Partly it is because, having obtained the best seats in the stand, you have become an isolated group largely singing your own songs that just don't resonate with me. And with that, the atmosphere is slowly whittling away. The banners though, were simply idiotic in my eyes. And pushed me towards thinking you are bad for the club. Will the atmosphere be worse without you? Yes. Do I care? Also yes. Do I care enough to see you remain as a group of ultras (who don't go home and away)? No. I'm happy to read your replies, acknowledge you did a lot of good, but I am unconvinced you represent "the fans"...if you ever did.
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Originally posted by twcpfc
This is reasonable, especially the second half I see where you’re coming from. I’ve attached the message, which specifies the “entire” holmesdale, as, presuming all goes to plan, we are involving the entire stand in this project so it “levelling up” the lower and upper. The fund is optional but we all go to selhurst for the same common goal. In terms of not involving the rest of the fanbase we involve the entire fanbase where possible eg Brentford at home (fundraiser) and are completely open to contact online or in person or if anyone who wants to join the singing section. I think this current idea is very promising Most fans go to watch a football match, not wave silly flags in the air, blocking the view of others. If you want to wave flags about there is a park in South Norwood you can do it, without disturbing anyone.
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I think the HF have become an embarrassment to Palace (fans as well as the club in general). The club bent over backwards to appease them with preferential FA cup semi final and final tickets so they could all sit together. Then there was the hugely unpopular move from the club to displace season ticket holders from their seats, some of which have been there since the stand was built and all to please the HF. They for a long time enhanced the atmosphere, for a long time now they have sought to control it. Even singing over other sections who are trying to create atmosphere with their own songs.
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Originally posted by Elpis
Sorry , Im just a grumpy old b****** that needs reminding what it was like to be 20 now and again COYP ! Can you remember that far back Elpis?
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How's the fundraising going ?I do think this will give the whole stadium a lift for the final games of the season !!
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Originally posted by walkingdownthehol...
How's the fundraising going ?I do think this will give the whole stadium a lift for the final games of the season !! Target of £4k was beaten by a few hundred, amazing backing from the fanbase as per. 1,000 flags ordered and ready for the West Ham game to be distributed and used presuming the club restores the banner to the Holmesdale. I've attached a full message if anyone is interested.
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Originally posted by twcpfc
Target of £4k was beaten by a few hundred, amazing backing from the fanbase as per. 1,000 flags ordered and ready for the West Ham game to be distributed and used presuming the club restores the banner to the Holmesdale. I've attached a full message if anyone is interested. So you have collected the money on a false pretence and moved the goalposts so to speak at the eleventh hour , that the club now need to backtrack on their position that the space that would bring in advertising revenue is given to the HF for a banner . Erm , taking it the club tells you to do one which is what I would expect what are you going to do with 1,000 flags ?
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Originally posted by Elpis
So you have collected the money on a false pretence and moved the goalposts so to speak at the eleventh hour , that the club now need to backtrack on their position that the space that would bring in advertising revenue is given to the HF for a banner . Erm , taking it the club tells you to do one which is what I would expect what are you going to do with 1,000 flags ? *Liked*
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There was no mention on the go fund page about a caveat with a banner issue preventing this from actually happening ? I don't know anything about the banner issue? In any case surely the best way forward is to show the club how good the Holmesdale would look at a one off match by using the flags , creating a great atmosphere and making your case even stronger to resolve the banner problem?
Originally posted by twcpfc
Target of £4k was beaten by a few hundred, amazing backing from the fanbase as per. 1,000 flags ordered and ready for the West Ham game to be distributed and used presuming the club restores the banner to the Holmesdale. I've attached a full message if anyone is interested.
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Originally posted by walkingdownthehol...
There was no mention on the go fund page about a caveat with a banner issue preventing this from actually happening ? I don't know anything about the banner issue? In any case surely the best way forward is to show the club how good the Holmesdale would look at a one off match by using the flags , creating a great atmosphere and making your case even stronger to resolve the banner problem?
Yep surely they have collected money under false pretences? Anyone willing to bet that the flags don’t materialise and the money is donated to a local charity?
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I've read the initial post & not much in-between
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Originally posted by mart.denman
I've read the initial post & not much in-between
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