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Hrolf The Ganger 22 Apr 24 12.48pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
ah yes. King William of Orange. The poster boy for Ulster Protestants. And where is Orange ? its a principality in Provence, France. And still today its a predominantly Catholic region. Although today it does have many non-Catholics too. Protestant ? nope, but your clue is that they would be highly unlikely to consume a Pork hot-dog at a Glasgow Rangers match. I was in Orange couple of years ago. A lot of Africans there from what I saw anyway. Loads of Muslims everywhere in bigger French towns.
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PalazioVecchio south pole Today 2.52pm | |
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We won the War. We beat Hitler. Incorrect. Focus on the two tables at the bottom of this link. In terms of soldiers dying in action ie while fighting....the number for the UK is tiny. if you are counting 'winning a War' by, for example, the US putting 3 or 4 fellas into a plane to fly over Hiroshima & Nagasaki.....then yes, the Allies won the war. But if you count the number of grunts in boots on the ground ? then the Soviets beat Hitler and the Chinese beat Japan. The UK ? barely much more than a statistical spectator..... whether or not 'we won the war'...i will grant you that we did suffer. A little old lady, minding her own business and drinking tea in the East End....Luftwaffe, boom, RiP. A city air-bombardment that the UK also did to Dresden et al. So if you tally the life of Mrs Smith of Dagenham to the life of Frau Schmidt in Dresden then ....was that the brits winning the War and beating Hitler ? i am not too sure. I still think it was the Red Army. Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 May 2024 3.04pm) Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 May 2024 3.08pm)
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
We won the War. We beat Hitler. Incorrect. Focus on the two tables at the bottom of this link. In terms of soldiers dying in action ie while fighting....the number for the UK is tiny. if you are counting 'winning a War' by, for example, the US putting 3 or 4 fellas into a plane to fly over Hiroshima & Nagasaki.....then yes, the Allies won the war. But if you count the number of grunts in boots on the ground ? then the Soviets beat Hitler and the Chinese beat Japan. The UK ? barely much more than a statistical spectator..... whether or not 'we won the war'...i will grant you that we did suffer. A little old lady, minding her own business and drinking tea in the East End....Luftwaffe, boom, RiP. A city air-bombardment that the UK also did to Dresden et al. So if you tally the life of Mrs Smith of Dagenham to the life of Frau Schmidt in Dresden then ....was that the brits winning the War and beating Hitler ? i am not too sure. I still think it was the Red Army. Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 May 2024 3.04pm) Edited by PalazioVecchio (02 May 2024 3.08pm) We pulled our weight, but the Germans see the Soviets and even Americans as beating them and the Japanese... don't admit to anything.
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