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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 18 Apr 13 1.18pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 18 Apr 2013 11.30am
So basically you are saying that the hardship for millions of Britons and their families and leaving their communities to rot were necessary casualties of an economic war. Collateral damage. Must have made them a bit sick when hearing about how the already wealthy were getting wealthier due to Thatcher's other economic policies whilst they were fumbling round the back of the sofa trying to find some loose change to buy some food, don't you think? Perhaps the greatest canard about the Thatcher era is that she was merely the champion of the wealthy.This is total balderdash. The fact remains that by the end of the 70s, millions of people - Old,young, black, white, Tory and Labour were sick of the spectre of national decline, tired of the endless routine of industrial strikes etc etc etc and something HAD to be done to arrest such a decline.
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| Moose In the sewer pipe... 18 Apr 13 3.52pm |
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Quote The Sash at 18 Apr 2013 12.57pm
I think this thread also confirms what a tedious old queen Morrisey has now turned into
Edited by Moose (18 Apr 2013 3.53pm)
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| chris123 hove actually 18 Apr 13 4.06pm |
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Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 10.16am
At what point in time will the mining communities stop complaining about the industry being killed off? It's been 30 years now. Will their inability to ever get a job be blamed on Thatcher for infinity?
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 18 Apr 13 4.35pm |
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Apr 2013 11.27am
Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 10.16am
At what point in time will the mining communities stop complaining about the industry being killed off? It's been 30 years now. Will their inability to ever get a job be blamed on Thatcher for infinity? Maybe when decent jobs are available in those areas. The problem isn't just that mining was closed down under thatcher alone, its that the closures were whole sale and created areas of massive unemployment at a time when UK industry was dying off - Meaning that large parts of the UK had massively reduced employment opportunties. The impact of the decline of the Steel Industry and mining was evident when I was at uni in 1996, 25% of Sheffield was unemployed, any kind of real career job was almost impossble to come by. And on the estates further out of the city which had been built around industry the unemployment figure was higher. There simply was no jobs that were ecconomically viable for people, they were better off on the dole. We know what happened. But I'm talking about now. Are you telling me in 30 years the families of these communities are still on the dole and it's still Thatcher's fault? It's funny how people can pass on hatred through generations - a bit like the bigotry in Northern Ireland.
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 18 Apr 13 4.39pm |
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Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 4.35pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Apr 2013 11.27am
Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 10.16am
At what point in time will the mining communities stop complaining about the industry being killed off? It's been 30 years now. Will their inability to ever get a job be blamed on Thatcher for infinity? Maybe when decent jobs are available in those areas. The problem isn't just that mining was closed down under thatcher alone, its that the closures were whole sale and created areas of massive unemployment at a time when UK industry was dying off - Meaning that large parts of the UK had massively reduced employment opportunties. The impact of the decline of the Steel Industry and mining was evident when I was at uni in 1996, 25% of Sheffield was unemployed, any kind of real career job was almost impossble to come by. And on the estates further out of the city which had been built around industry the unemployment figure was higher. There simply was no jobs that were ecconomically viable for people, they were better off on the dole. We know what happened. But I'm talking about now. Are you telling me in 30 years the families of these communities are still on the dole and it's still Thatcher's fault? It's funny how people can pass on hatred through generations - a bit like the bigotry in Northern Ireland. Most are still happy to be on the dole.......hence the government today are cutting benefits to make them go and look for a job instead of sat on their fat behinds!
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The Sash  Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 18 Apr 13 5.01pm |
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Quote Moose at 18 Apr 2013 3.52pm
Quote The Sash at 18 Apr 2013 12.57pm
I think this thread also confirms what a tedious old queen Morrisey has now turned into
Edited by Moose (18 Apr 2013 3.53pm)
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| The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 18 Apr 13 5.02pm |
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Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 4.35pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Apr 2013 11.27am
Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 10.16am
At what point in time will the mining communities stop complaining about the industry being killed off? It's been 30 years now. Will their inability to ever get a job be blamed on Thatcher for infinity? Maybe when decent jobs are available in those areas. The problem isn't just that mining was closed down under thatcher alone, its that the closures were whole sale and created areas of massive unemployment at a time when UK industry was dying off - Meaning that large parts of the UK had massively reduced employment opportunties. The impact of the decline of the Steel Industry and mining was evident when I was at uni in 1996, 25% of Sheffield was unemployed, any kind of real career job was almost impossble to come by. And on the estates further out of the city which had been built around industry the unemployment figure was higher. There simply was no jobs that were ecconomically viable for people, they were better off on the dole. We know what happened. But I'm talking about now. Are you telling me in 30 years the families of these communities are still on the dole and it's still Thatcher's fault? It's funny how people can pass on hatred through generations - a bit like the bigotry in Northern Ireland. The town of Crumlin is Wales was a thriving coal town - it is now has a thriving Pot Noodle mine...
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 13 5.19pm |
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Not gold yet..? Will the death of the Thatch be wheeled out as an excuse for poor economic figures for this quarter? Edited by nickgusset (18 Apr 2013 5.24pm)
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 18 Apr 13 6.00pm |
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Quote susmik at 18 Apr 2013 4.39pm
Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 4.35pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Apr 2013 11.27am
Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 10.16am
At what point in time will the mining communities stop complaining about the industry being killed off? It's been 30 years now. Will their inability to ever get a job be blamed on Thatcher for infinity? Maybe when decent jobs are available in those areas. The problem isn't just that mining was closed down under thatcher alone, its that the closures were whole sale and created areas of massive unemployment at a time when UK industry was dying off - Meaning that large parts of the UK had massively reduced employment opportunties. The impact of the decline of the Steel Industry and mining was evident when I was at uni in 1996, 25% of Sheffield was unemployed, any kind of real career job was almost impossble to come by. And on the estates further out of the city which had been built around industry the unemployment figure was higher. There simply was no jobs that were ecconomically viable for people, they were better off on the dole. We know what happened. But I'm talking about now. Are you telling me in 30 years the families of these communities are still on the dole and it's still Thatcher's fault? It's funny how people can pass on hatred through generations - a bit like the bigotry in Northern Ireland. Most are still happy to be on the dole.......hence the government today are cutting benefits to make them go and look for a job instead of sat on their fat behinds! Two points Might have been difficult for some of the families at the time but no excuse for the younger generation. I came to london in '85 to work for a few years before heading back. 28 years later this is my home. Mate of mine moved lock, stock and family to Norwich in 84 for work in the print trade, still there now. You do what's necessary. Secondly, as others have said, if the unions and workers hadn't been so bloody minded and assumed that they were going to nobble PM number 4 the transition may have been a lot easier.
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Farawayeagle  Sydney 18 Apr 13 6.06pm |
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Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 4.35pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 18 Apr 2013 11.27am
Quote Penge Eagle at 18 Apr 2013 10.16am
At what point in time will the mining communities stop complaining about the industry being killed off? It's been 30 years now. Will their inability to ever get a job be blamed on Thatcher for infinity? Maybe when decent jobs are available in those areas. The problem isn't just that mining was closed down under thatcher alone, its that the closures were whole sale and created areas of massive unemployment at a time when UK industry was dying off - Meaning that large parts of the UK had massively reduced employment opportunties. The impact of the decline of the Steel Industry and mining was evident when I was at uni in 1996, 25% of Sheffield was unemployed, any kind of real career job was almost impossble to come by. And on the estates further out of the city which had been built around industry the unemployment figure was higher. There simply was no jobs that were ecconomically viable for people, they were better off on the dole. We know what happened. But I'm talking about now. Are you telling me in 30 years the families of these communities are still on the dole and it's still Thatcher's fault? It's funny how people can pass on hatred through generations - a bit like the bigotry in Northern Ireland. That's exactly the train of thought running through my head recently.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 13 8.32pm |
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hmmm, how come the shard hasn't been finished in this image of the crowds at Maggies funeral in the Sun today?
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Quote nickgusset at 18 Apr 2013 8.32pm
hmmm, how come the shard hasn't been finished in this image of the crowds at Maggies funeral in the Sun today?
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