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 HKOwen  Hong Kong 08 Nov 23 8.38am |
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Is this the start of a Labour split? I am impressed with Starmer's steadfastness so far, let's see if it continues. His poppy incident was an embarrassment though.
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Badger11  Beckenham 08 Nov 23 9.26am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Is this the start of a Labour split? I am impressed with Starmer's steadfastness so far, let's see if it continues. His poppy incident was an embarrassment though. I'm not sure I can name anyone from the shadow front bench. Perhaps they could call it the invisible front bench.
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| silvertop Portishead 08 Nov 23 9.54am |
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Swings and roundabouts. Will the loss of the Muslim and rad-left support be balanced by gains/savings elsewhere? I suspect they may lose a great deal of support, but would it make any difference? Bradford East etc. may fall, but it would be gained by an independent, not the Tories. This would happen in areas with a large Muslim population which, given their propensity to concentrate in limited geographic areas, won't be as many constituencies as you suspect. Also, many Muslims may not vote elsewhere but may abstain, thus leaving Labour in control, albeit with a reduced majority. Thus, a few safe seats lost and a reduced majority but not one to make a difference. However, calling for a ceasefire may alienate a significant chunk of voters eager to swing away from the Tories. That would be very damaging. Starmer may also use this conflict to pare away more electoral liabilities and leave him with a stronger (looking) more unified (appearing) representation. Politics, eh?
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 08 Nov 23 12.11pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Swings and roundabouts. Will the loss of the Muslim and rad-left support be balanced by gains/savings elsewhere? I suspect they may lose a great deal of support, but would it make any difference? Bradford East etc. may fall, but it would be gained by an independent, not the Tories. This would happen in areas with a large Muslim population which, given their propensity to concentrate in limited geographic areas, won't be as many constituencies as you suspect. Also, many Muslims may not vote elsewhere but may abstain, thus leaving Labour in control, albeit with a reduced majority. Thus, a few safe seats lost and a reduced majority but not one to make a difference. However, calling for a ceasefire may alienate a significant chunk of voters eager to swing away from the Tories. That would be very damaging. Starmer may also use this conflict to pare away more electoral liabilities and leave him with a stronger (looking) more unified (appearing) representation. Politics, eh? Especially if the General Election is held between 10th March and April 8th. It's Ramadan.
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| YT Oxford 08 Nov 23 1.17pm |
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Never 'eard of 'im.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 08 Nov 23 2.59pm |
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A small embryonic moment in the eventual rise of Islamic politics in this country. This is something that out self serving politicians and the egalitarian idiocracy needs to wake up to very quickly. Much of the damage has been done already. All those muppets with their moralising and virtue signalling at dinner parties need to know that Islam will have no time for them in the new order that they will be plotting. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (08 Nov 2023 3.35pm)
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| eritheagle Erith 08 Nov 23 3.02pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Is this the start of a Labour split? I am impressed with Starmer's steadfastness so far, let's see if it continues. His poppy incident was an embarrassment though. I hope they do implode BUT i heard it said that the one that resigned was of a few if not the only staunch Corbyn supporter on the Shadow front bench.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 08 Nov 23 3.24pm |
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do you join the Labour party if you are.... - man hating - homophobic.... gay hating - gang-rape victim hating ..'put up and shutup for the sake of diversity' - David Lammy on mastermind - hating of the English working classes - lazy, indolent, and work-hating - hating of the traditional nuclear family - Christian hating I'm only asking the question ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 Nov 2023 10.12pm) Edited by PalazioVecchio (09 Nov 2023 8.04am)
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eagleman13  On The Road To Hell & Alicante 08 Nov 23 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
do you join the Labour party if you are.... - man hating - homophobic.... gay hating - gang-rape victim hating - hating of the English working classes - lazy, indolent, and work-hating - hating of the traditional nuclear family - Christian hating I'm only asking the question ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (08 Nov 2023 3.27pm)
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beak  croydon 08 Nov 23 6.34pm |
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A few more like him leaving and the election is in the bag, good ol' Starmer.
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| beak croydon 08 Nov 23 6.35pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Is this the start of a Labour split? I am impressed with Starmer's steadfastness so far, let's see if it continues. His poppy incident was an embarrassment though. Just another Farage rant,move on nowt to see.
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