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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 23 Oct 20 2.42pm | |
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I know, I know. There have been a hundred Wilfried Zaha threads. I won't pretend this one is hugely different. Except what I think is pertinent right now is that Wilf's career is truly at its final crossroads, as evidenced in our last two games. This summer, it would seem he was humiliated by desperately pushing to leave, only to discover that nobody appeared to want him. Then, Roy Hodgson was essentially questioning his contribution to the Brighton game. I lost a lot of love for Wilf over the summer with the idiotic, tiresome circus of his people -- and Zaha himself (by which I mean his ill-advised Dubai thing) -- seemingly throwing himself like a drunk old man at a disco onto any would-be lover. Then the Man U game came and he was sensational: electric movement, leadership, skill, pace and power. In short, a one-off world-class display. It appeared to reflect the ethic of a player who had worked hard all close-season to ensure he could showcase his talents. Nobody will ever know what Wilf did or didn't do against Chelsea and Brighton: how much was him and how much was Roy's system, but what's clear is that he was essentially absent from those games. Then to have been criticized by Roy will have stung. So now here we are. Is he going to deliver, or is he not? If Wilf fails to deliver significantly before the January transfer window (and I mean from right now), then I think he will finish his career at Selhurst Park, wondering what might he have been. Knowing he could have done so much more with his talents than he actually did. Champions League games, championships...so much more. So Wilf is at a crossroads. I for one hope that he moves in January because it would mean the penny has dropped that only his absolute, level best, week-in, week-out offers him a sliver of hope for the move he craves. Then we sell him for a viable fee, from a position of upper-mid-table security, that helps us to rebuild. And he gets his golden chance and the story ends well. If not, then what does he really offer to the sort of team that he thinks he's worthy of playing for? An inconsistent, 28-year-old sulker. I really don't think he will be able to sulk his way out of Selhurst park (to the kind of club he wants to go to): he's too well remunerated for that. His only hope is to start playing like the talent we all know he is... starting at Craven Cottage tomorrow. It is a binary moment in his life. I for one hope he sees it.
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Badger11 Beckenham 23 Oct 20 2.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
I know, I know. There have been a hundred Wilfried Zaha threads. I won't pretend this one is hugely different. Except what I think is pertinent right now is that Wilf's career is truly at its final crossroads, as evidenced in our last two games. This summer, it would seem he was humiliated by desperately pushing to leave, only to discover that nobody appeared to want him. Then, Roy Hodgson was essentially questioning his contribution to the Brighton game. I lost a lot of love for Wilf over the summer with the idiotic, tiresome circus of his people -- and Zaha himself (by which I mean his ill-advised Dubai thing) -- seemingly throwing himself like a drunk old man at a disco onto any would-be lover. Then the Man U game came and he was sensational: electric movement, leadership, skill, pace and power. In short, a one-off world-class display. It appeared to reflect the ethic of a player who had worked hard all close-season to ensure he could showcase his talents. Nobody will ever know what Wilf did or didn't do against Chelsea and Brighton: how much was him and how much was Roy's system, but what's clear is that he was essentially absent from those games. Then to have been criticized by Roy will have stung. So now here we are. Is he going to deliver, or is he not? If Wilf fails to deliver significantly before the January transfer window (and I mean from right now), then I think he will finish his career at Selhurst Park, wondering what might he have been. Knowing he could have done so much more with his talents than he actually did. Champions League games, championships...so much more. So Wilf is at a crossroads. I for one hope that he moves in January because it would mean the penny has dropped that only his absolute, level best, week-in, week-out offers him a sliver of hope for the move he craves. Then we sell him for a viable fee, from a position of upper-mid-table security, that helps us to rebuild. And he gets his golden chance and the story ends well. If not, then what does he really offer to the sort of team that he thinks he's worthy of playing for? An inconsistent, 28-year-old sulker. I really don't think he will be able to sulk his way out of Selhurst park (to the kind of club he wants to go to): he's too well remunerated for that. His only hope is to start playing like the talent we all know he is... starting at Craven Cottage tomorrow. It is a binary moment in his life. I for one hope he sees it. He was recovering from injury and was a doubt for the Brighton game maybe we should have rested him for that.
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PatrickA London 23 Oct 20 3.16pm | |
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He really is at a crossroads this season.
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Spiderman Horsham 23 Oct 20 4.22pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
He was recovering from injury and was a doubt for the Brighton game maybe we should have rested him for that. A lot of people have seemed to ignore this fact, including Roy
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IMMER PALACE BIELEFELD 23 Oct 20 4.30pm | |
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Wilf is noticeably slower than he was. Maybe he doesn't trust his body after 10 years of being kicked to ribbons or maybe his body is damaged. He should be given a rest and some love. He might need to adapt his game to new limitations.
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Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 23 Oct 20 4.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
He was recovering from injury and was a doubt for the Brighton game maybe we should have rested him for that. A very good point.
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Casual Orpington 23 Oct 20 5.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
A lot of people have seemed to ignore this fact, including Roy He must have been injured all last season aswell then , as he wasn’t very good was he? Didn’t score or assist many goals.
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Spiderman Horsham 23 Oct 20 7.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Casual
He must have been injured all last season aswell then , as he wasn’t very good was he? Didn’t score or assist many goals. Maybe he was injured a lot last season combined with Roys tactics, who knows, do you? Sitting in lower holmesdale and getting in early I saw Wilf leave pre-match warm up early more than once with the doctor. Still let’s just slag our best player off shall we,
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Casual Orpington 23 Oct 20 8.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Maybe he was injured a lot last season combined with Roys tactics, who knows, do you? Sitting in lower holmesdale and getting in early I saw Wilf leave pre-match warm up early more than once with the doctor. Still let’s just slag our best player off shall we, Conspiracy theory, love it, Wilf doesn’t just turn up when he wants, must be injured, sometimes. You think he’s injured when he trys to beat players at walking pace, or when he pea rolls it back to the keeper with his shots??
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sprites Auckland 23 Oct 20 8.17pm | |
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Agree with most of the sentiments on this page. He's a decent, skilful player. He's not as good as we all think he is. And he's not as good as he evidently think he is. Against our lot of defensive-minded players, he shines. But put him up against the likes of Sterling, Mahrez, DeBryne, Mane, Salah, Rashford etc etc and he comes up short. As mentioned above, no champions league level club is going to pay top dollar for a player so inconsistent. Essentially a squad player for them. Let alone the attitude problems that are clear as day. He's one of our own, so it's understandable we overrate him.
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Spiderman Horsham 23 Oct 20 8.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Casual
Conspiracy theory, love it, Wilf doesn’t just turn up when he wants, must be injured, sometimes. You think he’s injured when he trys to beat players at walking pace, or when he pea rolls it back to the keeper with his shots??
Still at least we know you won’t cheer when he scores. Not rose tinted glasses, he left early on at least 2 occasions. What is it with posters on here with their conspiracy theories, it’s called opinions. I believe his time has probably passed but I also believe Roys tactics have not helped him. ps don’t tell Willo you stand in lower holmesdale
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cryrst The garden of England 23 Oct 20 8.21pm | |
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If he wanted to leave why did he sign a new five year contract a couple years ago.
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