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HKOwen Hong Kong 05 Oct 20 10.24pm | |
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Would you rather we had bought Watkins thank loaned Bats? Watkins is clearly good enough for PL
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Palace 1979 Surrey 05 Oct 20 10.31pm | |
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And £28m more expensive with an unproven record. He was very good last night and could be a gem, but we got Eze, Bats and Ferguson for less...
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mattteo 05 Oct 20 10.32pm | |
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One could be brought on loan, for the other you'd have tp cough 25 million without the certainty that he could have made it. It appears now , after the Liverpool game, that he IS good enough for the money. But he was just a Championship center forward who had only played 1 full season as center forward, previously having been used as a winger. On the other hand, Batshuayi was a certainty at international level, having played well for all Belgium, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea and us. And if he doesn't accustom well this year, you can even chise not to pay the money. So, the Batshuayi deal seems the better one.
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Oct 20 10.51pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
One could be brought on loan, for the other you'd have tp cough 25 million without the certainty that he could have made it. It appears now , after the Liverpool game, that he IS good enough for the money. But he was just a Championship center forward who had only played 1 full season as center forward, previously having been used as a winger. On the other hand, Batshuayi was a certainty at international level, having played well for all Belgium, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea and us. And if he doesn't accustom well this year, you can even chise not to pay the money. So, the Batshuayi deal seems the better one. I’m actually inclined to agree here. But knee jerk to start assuming Watkins is the next R9 after one performance and could still go one way or the other for me. I wish him luck though and can’t help but still admit a bit of jealousy. Equally, there’s every chance Bats could have a terrible season. Be interesting to see anyhow
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Painter Croydon 05 Oct 20 11.10pm | |
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Originally posted by mattteo
One could be brought on loan, for the other you'd have tp cough 25 million without the certainty that he could have made it. It appears now , after the Liverpool game, that he IS good enough for the money. But he was just a Championship center forward who had only played 1 full season as center forward, previously having been used as a winger. On the other hand, Batshuayi was a certainty at international level, having played well for all Belgium, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea and us. And if he doesn't accustom well this year, you can even chise not to pay the money. So, the Batshuayi deal seems the better one. Also Watkins was never going to come here. Dean Smith helped develop him at Brentford, so believes in him, so obviously he is going to go to Villa.
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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Oct 20 11.16pm | |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Would you rather we had bought Watkins thank loaned Bats? Watkins is clearly good enough for PL Ultimately it doesn't matter who we would prefer, it's about who we could afford. Watkins or Eze is a more relevant question as we couldn't fund both.
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Jamesrichards8 06 Oct 20 1.03am | |
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Looked at prospectively, we made the wise choice. Retrospectively, we could have been a bit more adventurous and gone for Watkins, but you can't say it's a proven fact at this point--he could finish the season with 3 goals. Edited by Jamesrichards8 (06 Oct 2020 1.03am)
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Casual Orpington 06 Oct 20 6.44am | |
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Based o the few games this season , Bamford looks decent, where as our experience of him is that he is f*cking awful. Pukki started last season with a flying start, then went to s*it, Watkins had one decent season in an attacking championship side and was an unknown quantity for defenders, as it was his first as a striker. I’m not a particular fan of Batshuayi, he doesn’t work hard enough or even jump for headers to play in a system like ours. If you don’t score bundles at Chelsea with the quality balls that they can provide I struggle to see how he will be a success with us. I think the Bournemouth goals on the last day for us, improved his stats for us last time. Will have to wait and see. Wouldn’t be surprised if both do ok or sink without trace.
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EddieMac 06 Oct 20 7.33am | |
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We never bid for Watkins and never had a chance to sign him so it makes no odds really to think what might have been.
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deleted 25 06 Oct 20 8.42am | |
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Originally posted by Painter
Also Watkins was never going to come here. Dean Smith helped develop him at Brentford, so believes in him, so obviously he is going to go to Villa. You are right there. We went to Villa near the end of last season and didn't put in a show. If we had beaten them and they went down then it's more of a possibility we could have signed him. I think the club were alerted to him by Clinton Morrison who played with him at Exeter. He is an intelligent technical player who is going to be a major premier league player. Villa are going to a top half team and above this season
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KAOS In a tree 06 Oct 20 8.56am | |
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It's all very well spending 28 million on a striker but he has to be given regular chances ... and that's an area we fail in miserably over a season. We'll never score 7 in this league in a game as long as we're in it, let alone against a top 4 side. On this basis, Bats is a better deal for us ...
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taylors lovechild 06 Oct 20 9.12am | |
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I think Bats and Zaha might actually work together. I don't personally think Ayew and Zaha does. That might change, but at the moment there doesn't seem to be any chemistry and they don't seem to be able to read each other's game. I do think it is because they are both wingers playing as forwards. The first game I saw Watkins in the PL he looked a bit lost and were it not for his pace I wouldn't have said he looked worth the money. And then he scored three past Liverpool. So much with strikers seems to be about confidence to the point that even Bamford can look like a footballer.
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