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carlonoil  Naples 06 Oct 16 6.27pm |
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Link is to a good article that describes how a country that was handed over to Robert Mugabe as the second richest in Africa became the third poorest in the world in record time. This is of course the same Rober Mugabe who the left lauded as a great hero and freedom fighter, a role model for progressive movements. Aren't the people of that country so lucky to escape the tyranny of Smith's rule. South Africa is of course heading in the same direction if they don't soon get their act together.
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 Leecpfc  Praying for love in a lapdance... 06 Oct 16 7.03pm |
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A really interesting read. Articles like this make me glad that I continue to browse the HOL
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Kermit8  Hevon 06 Oct 16 8.14pm |
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If Ian Smith hadn't attracted the ire of Britain by illegally trying to go it alone away from us without going through the correct procedure then he wouldn't have set up the ground so nicely for such a cvnt like Mugabe. Smith gave us no choice but to oppose him. The idiot.
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| carlonoil Naples 06 Oct 16 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If Ian Smith hadn't attracted the ire of Britain by illegally trying to go it alone away from us without going through the correct procedure then he wouldn't have set up the ground so nicely for such a cvnt like Mugabe. Smith gave us no choice but to oppose him. The idiot. What did the 'ire of Britain' amount to? Harold Wilson moaning a bit. The left championed Muagbe over and above the more moderate black leaders even though Bob openly styled himself a communist.
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| matt_himself Matataland 07 Oct 16 7.22am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
If Ian Smith hadn't attracted the ire of Britain by illegally trying to go it alone away from us without going through the correct procedure then he wouldn't have set up the ground so nicely for such a cvnt like Mugabe. Smith gave us no choice but to oppose him. The idiot. ...so the clumsy manner in which UDI was handled excuses 35 years of chronic misrule and tyranny?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Oct 16 11.02am |
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I'm not sure you can really say 'it was handed over to Mugabe' they were in the process of taking it. Some, and many maybe, on the left supported the national liberation movement, but the previous governments of Rhodesia were themselves complicit in creating an oppressive regime that excluded blacks and implemented a racist rule. Smith, really kind of represented more of the same more or less. Their failure to realistically address the issues and poverty of the black population really meant that the continuation of the armed struggle was the only real option for black rights and a reasonable path to equality. Mugabe's rise to power really occurs post-Independence and essentially was a form of coup following the 1980s elections, culminating in the crushing of the armed uprising of Nkomo, and on the back of this Mugabe established his dictatorship-regime.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 07 Oct 16 11.07am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
...so the clumsy manner in which UDI was handled excuses 35 years of chronic misrule and tyranny? Absolutely not, but the UK was also not really in a position where it could do much, given the grip Zanu-PU and Mugabe had by 1981. A full scale invasion at the time, given the popularity of Mugabe among the black population would have been questionable in achieving anything other than a protracted civil war and would have been massively unpopular at home. Its astonishing how much influence and regard Mugabe still holds among black Zimbabwe even now.
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| matt_himself Matataland 07 Oct 16 11.10am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Absolutely not, but the UK was also not really in a position where it could do much, given the grip Zanu-PU and Mugabe had by 1981. A full scale invasion at the time, given the popularity of Mugabe among the black population would have been questionable in achieving anything other than a protracted civil war and would have been massively unpopular at home. Its astonishing how much influence and regard Mugabe still holds among black Zimbabwe even now. Disagree with the 'regard' part. He has influence but mainly through tyranny and paying off sycophants.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 07 Oct 16 11.14am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Absolutely not, but the UK was also not really in a position where it could do much, given the grip Zanu-PU and Mugabe had by 1981. A full scale invasion at the time, given the popularity of Mugabe among the black population would have been questionable in achieving anything other than a protracted civil war and would have been massively unpopular at home. Its astonishing how much influence and regard Mugabe still holds among black Zimbabwe even now. Except the dead ones.
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| Hoof Hearted 07 Oct 16 11.28am | |
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One story I heard was that the black workers on one Dairy Farm took it over from the white owner and their first act was to slaughter the cows so everyone had a steak dinner for a few nights.
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| Sportyteacher London 07 Oct 16 2.02pm |
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Originally posted by carlonoil
Link is to a good article that describes how a country that was handed over to Robert Mugabe as the second richest in Africa became the third poorest in the world in record time. This is of course the same Rober Mugabe who the left lauded as a great hero and freedom fighter, a role model for progressive movements. Aren't the people of that country so lucky to escape the tyranny of Smith's rule. South Africa is of course heading in the same direction if they don't soon get their act together. I suggest that you pass this on to Barclays given their active corporate interests within Zimbabwe
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| carlonoil Naples 07 Oct 16 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by Sportyteacher
I suggest that you pass this on to Barclays given their active corporate interests within Zimbabwe Barclays has announced its intention to sell its Zimbawe Bank. Of course the left somehow try to shift the blame for the country's catastrophic state to hate targets like banks while remaining quite about, or making excuses for, Mugabe.
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