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sitdownstandup Flag 31 Dec 15 9.29pm Send a Private Message to sitdownstandup Add sitdownstandup as a friend

Can Bernie beat trump and Clinton to the white house?

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Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshipping.

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lindzay Flag 01 Jan 16 9.58am

yes,

I believe the American business world will do anything to stop him. I fear they might have him shot if he wins.

On social media he is loved but the TV companies give him 30seconds and Trump gets what seems 3 hours. Trump says nothing that helps people he is a total distraction.
Hillary is Wall Street puppet.

 

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nairb75 Flag Baltimore 04 Jan 16 10.04pm Send a Private Message to nairb75 Add nairb75 as a friend

you guys have as much chance of being the next us president as bernie.

 

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lindzay Flag 11 Jan 16 1.35am

Quote nairb75 at 04 Jan 2016 10.04pm

you guys have as much chance of being the next us president as bernie.

And your a blinkered fool


 

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chris123 Flag hove actually 11 Jan 16 9.16am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

He's got to beat Clinton first, so probably not given her lead.

 

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nairb75 Flag Baltimore 11 Jan 16 2.14pm Send a Private Message to nairb75 Add nairb75 as a friend

Quote lindzay at 11 Jan 2016 1.35am

Quote nairb75 at 04 Jan 2016 10.04pm

you guys have as much chance of being the next us president as bernie.

And your a blinkered fool


i can't deny that. still, doesn't mean i'm wrong. mind to tell me how he's going to win? i'm a fool so really have no idea.


 

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 11 Jan 16 4.43pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Quote chris123 at 11 Jan 2016 9.16am

He's got to beat Clinton first, so probably not given her lead.


Hillary leads in the national polls, but candidates are not picked nationally, they're picked state-by-state. So you cannot really judge a candidate's support amongst voters in states where they haven't really started campaigning yet; those people likely responding more on name recognition than anything else.

In the early primary states, Iowa and New Hampshire, Bernie is leading in one and neck-and-neck in the other. [Link] If he wins both of those, he will have momentum - and an influx of campaign money - going into the subsequent states.

Hillary is in a no-win situation: if she wins big in Iowa and New Hampshire, she was expected to; if she wins squeakers or loses, then Bernie "wins" by dint of showing her up. If she doesn't crush him hard and early, she's in real trouble, I think.

She's pretty unlikable and has "evolved" recently on too many issues. Also, the conservative opposition is hell bent on finding a smoking gun somewhere in her past and, if there's a slip up in her emails somewhere, she could be torpedoed easily at exactly the wrong time.

Bernie has been laser-consistent and out in front of many current trends (such as marriage equality and income inequality), but has some skeletons in his closet regarding gun regulations and, weirdly, race relations.

Both consistently poll as beating the republican field, so it's not about who is going to do better in the general election and more about who the democrats like more.

Personally, I'd go with Bernie for his consistency and political incorrectness (in a good way). I worry that Hillary will be too easily swayed by the establishment and corporate money once in office. Also, the Sanders-Trump debates would be epic.

#FeeltheBern

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Stuk Flag Top half 11 Jan 16 4.58pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

I can't believe that the democrat options boil down to two pensioners!

 


Optimistic as ever

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chris123 Flag hove actually 11 Jan 16 5.01pm Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Quote Ray in Houston at 11 Jan 2016 4.43pm

Quote chris123 at 11 Jan 2016 9.16am

He's got to beat Clinton first, so probably not given her lead.


Hillary leads in the national polls, but candidates are not picked nationally, they're picked state-by-state. So you cannot really judge a candidate's support amongst voters in states where they haven't really started campaigning yet; those people likely responding more on name recognition than anything else.

In the early primary states, Iowa and New Hampshire, Bernie is leading in one and neck-and-neck in the other. [Link] If he wins both of those, he will have momentum - and an influx of campaign money - going into the subsequent states.

Hillary is in a no-win situation: if she wins big in Iowa and New Hampshire, she was expected to; if she wins squeakers or loses, then Bernie "wins" by dint of showing her up. If she doesn't crush him hard and early, she's in real trouble, I think.

She's pretty unlikable and has "evolved" recently on too many issues. Also, the conservative opposition is hell bent on finding a smoking gun somewhere in her past and, if there's a slip up in her emails somewhere, she could be torpedoed easily at exactly the wrong time.

Bernie has been laser-consistent and out in front of many current trends (such as marriage equality and income inequality), but has some skeletons in his closet regarding gun regulations and, weirdly, race relations.

Both consistently poll as beating the republican field, so it's not about who is going to do better in the general election and more about who the democrats like more.

Personally, I'd go with Bernie for his consistency and political incorrectness (in a good way). I worry that Hillary will be too easily swayed by the establishment and corporate money once in office. Also, the Sanders-Trump debates would be epic.

#FeeltheBern


Lead as in their respective odds currently quoted by UK bookmakers.

 

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 11 Jan 16 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Quote Stuk at 11 Jan 2016 4.58pm

I can't believe that the democrat options boil down to two pensioners!


Romney is (now) 68, McCain is (now) eleventy-one. Trump is 69 (fnarr fnarr). We don't know how old Obama is because, you know, who believes what's written on that piece of toilet paper he calls a birth certificate?

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 11 Jan 16 5.03pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Quote chris123 at 11 Jan 2016 5.01pm

Lead as in their respective odds currently quoted by UK bookmakers.


Gotcha. So nothing to do with the people who actually have a say in it.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Stuk Flag Top half 11 Jan 16 5.08pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote Ray in Houston at 11 Jan 2016 5.03pm

Quote Stuk at 11 Jan 2016 4.58pm

I can't believe that the democrat options boil down to two pensioners!


Romney is (now) 68, McCain is (now) eleventy-one. Trump is 69 (fnarr fnarr). We don't know how old Obama is because, you know, who believes what's written on that piece of toilet paper he calls a birth certificate?

You'll be going from electing one of your youngest Presidents to one of your oldest.

Sanders would be around 80 by the end of his first term if he won. Madness.

 


Optimistic as ever

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