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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Nov 15 12.20pm | |
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Austerity isn't working.
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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 20 Nov 15 12.24pm | |
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In the interests of balance can somebody please post a Telegraph, or similar right wing newspaper, article claiming it is and then the usual suspects can quickly get into a dogmatic argument based purely on partisan political leanings rather than common sense and get it all out of the way
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Nov 15 12.31pm | |
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Quote The Sash at 20 Nov 2015 12.24pm
In the interests of balance can somebody please post a Telegraph, or similar right wing newspaper, article claiming it is and then the usual suspects can quickly get into a dogmatic argument based purely on partisan political leanings rather than common sense and get it all out of the way
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Pawson Palace Croydon 20 Nov 15 1.37pm | |
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Popcorn at the ready. Proceed chaps.
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Helmet46 Croydon 20 Nov 15 1.47pm | |
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Just warming the slippers so I can enjoy the absolute tosh both sides are going to spout. Let the bollox begin.........................
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Nov 15 10.47am | |
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George Osborne 'We're bringing the years of irresponsible borrowing to an end' 2010 Really? Attachment: IMG_20151121_104235.jpg (62.53Kb)
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Hoof Hearted 21 Nov 15 10.54am | |
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I'm too busy "thumbing through" my new Ola Jordan 2016 Calendar......... So for that reason I'm Out!
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Nov 15 11.16am | |
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Quote nickgusset at 21 Nov 2015 10.47am
George Osborne 'We're bringing the years of irresponsible borrowing to an end' 2010 Really?
I believe a few things. 1. The debt went past the point of comfortable. If any economic crises occurred after 2008 and the main ones we'd have been really screwed. 2. There wasn't the global demand to meet Ed Balls' Keynesian suggestions. Eventually the economic multiplier effect would've run out with the type of economy we had. 3. I don't blame Labour for the crises, credit crunch etc. (I blame the people ignoring the World Bank warnings interrupting the halcyon days) Labour didn't overspend if there wasn't ever a recession on the way, but there always is. So I do blame them for the rising debt. Economic life cycles have been going on for centuries but Gordon Brown thought he had the cure. Made himself look a right t1t. Ed Balls had no chance. 4 I don't necessarily think Cameron or Osbourne or any of the others will satisfy enough of what is needed or possible once the budget deficit is in surplus. If Labour find a credible leader and a solution to the SNP problem, you might get your wish, Nick, albeit with a coalition with about 20 Lib Dem MP's. However, they'll struggle and probably fail to solve all of those past 2020 and those without a decent job AND a mortgage agreement will stay frustrated. T Bliar is a selfish and self serving c*** and GB is a stubborn fool and there's no Tory to do more than the basic of disciplined austerity. That's required for a few years more but lots to do after that. The working tax credits punishment for having a job that pays sh1t wages when someone else will be punished if you find a better job I am opposed to.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 21 Nov 15 11.23am | |
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Quote Rudi Hedman at 21 Nov 2015 11.16am
Quote nickgusset at 21 Nov 2015 10.47am
George Osborne 'We're bringing the years of irresponsible borrowing to an end' 2010 Really?
I believe a few things. 1. The debt went past the point of comfortable. If any economic crises occurred after 2008 and the main ones we'd have been really screwed. 2. There wasn't the global demand to meet Ed Balls' Keynesian suggestions. Eventually the economic multiplier effect would've run out with the type of economy we had. 3. I don't blame Labour for the crises, credit crunch etc. (I blame the people ignoring the World Bank warnings interrupting the halcyon days) Labour didn't overspend if there wasn't ever a recession on the way, but there always is. So I do blame them for the rising debt. Economic life cycles have been going on for centuries but Gordon Brown thought he had the cure. Made himself look a right t1t. Ed Balls had no chance. 4 I don't necessarily think Cameron or Osbourne or any of the others will satisfy enough of what is needed or possible once the budget deficit is in surplus. If Labour find a credible leader and a solution to the SNP problem, you might get your wish, Nick, albeit with a coalition with about 20 Lib Dem MP's. However, they'll struggle and probably fail to solve all of those past 2020 and those without a decent job AND a mortgage agreement will stay frustrated. T Bliar is a selfish and self serving c*** and GB is a stubborn fool and there's no Tory to do more than the basic of disciplined austerity. That's required for a few years more but lots to do after that. The working tax credits punishment for having a job that pays sh1t wages when someone else will be punished if you find a better job I am opposed to.
What I've found strange, ever so slightly off topic, is why people are listening to the same economic 'experts' that didn't foresee the crash.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 21 Nov 15 11.31am | |
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Quote nickgusset at 21 Nov 2015 11.23am
Quote Rudi Hedman at 21 Nov 2015 11.16am
Quote nickgusset at 21 Nov 2015 10.47am
George Osborne 'We're bringing the years of irresponsible borrowing to an end' 2010 Really?
I believe a few things. 1. The debt went past the point of comfortable. If any economic crises occurred after 2008 and the main ones we'd have been really screwed. 2. There wasn't the global demand to meet Ed Balls' Keynesian suggestions. Eventually the economic multiplier effect would've run out with the type of economy we had. 3. I don't blame Labour for the crises, credit crunch etc. (I blame the people ignoring the World Bank warnings interrupting the halcyon days) Labour didn't overspend if there wasn't ever a recession on the way, but there always is. So I do blame them for the rising debt. Economic life cycles have been going on for centuries but Gordon Brown thought he had the cure. Made himself look a right t1t. Ed Balls had no chance. 4 I don't necessarily think Cameron or Osbourne or any of the others will satisfy enough of what is needed or possible once the budget deficit is in surplus. If Labour find a credible leader and a solution to the SNP problem, you might get your wish, Nick, albeit with a coalition with about 20 Lib Dem MP's. However, they'll struggle and probably fail to solve all of those past 2020 and those without a decent job AND a mortgage agreement will stay frustrated. T Bliar is a selfish and self serving c*** and GB is a stubborn fool and there's no Tory to do more than the basic of disciplined austerity. That's required for a few years more but lots to do after that. The working tax credits punishment for having a job that pays sh1t wages when someone else will be punished if you find a better job I am opposed to.
What I've found strange, ever so slightly off topic, is why people are listening to the same economic 'experts' that didn't foresee the crash.
There was a guy from the world bank who made a presentation in 2005 re: the rise in available credit. He was criticised by advisors in the white house. The Chancellor, Gordon Brown, claimed he'd broken the economic cycle and we were safe from any recession, ever. That in my book makes him a fool. Ed Balls is naive working from a text book and Cameron & Osbourne are lucky to be in the right place at the right time.
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-TUX- Alphabettispaghetti 21 Nov 15 3.57pm | |
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Quote nickgusset at 21 Nov 2015 11.23am
Quote Rudi Hedman at 21 Nov 2015 11.16am
Quote nickgusset at 21 Nov 2015 10.47am
George Osborne 'We're bringing the years of irresponsible borrowing to an end' 2010 Really?
I believe a few things. 1. The debt went past the point of comfortable. If any economic crises occurred after 2008 and the main ones we'd have been really screwed. 2. There wasn't the global demand to meet Ed Balls' Keynesian suggestions. Eventually the economic multiplier effect would've run out with the type of economy we had. 3. I don't blame Labour for the crises, credit crunch etc. (I blame the people ignoring the World Bank warnings interrupting the halcyon days) Labour didn't overspend if there wasn't ever a recession on the way, but there always is. So I do blame them for the rising debt. Economic life cycles have been going on for centuries but Gordon Brown thought he had the cure. Made himself look a right t1t. Ed Balls had no chance. 4 I don't necessarily think Cameron or Osbourne or any of the others will satisfy enough of what is needed or possible once the budget deficit is in surplus. If Labour find a credible leader and a solution to the SNP problem, you might get your wish, Nick, albeit with a coalition with about 20 Lib Dem MP's. However, they'll struggle and probably fail to solve all of those past 2020 and those without a decent job AND a mortgage agreement will stay frustrated. T Bliar is a selfish and self serving c*** and GB is a stubborn fool and there's no Tory to do more than the basic of disciplined austerity. That's required for a few years more but lots to do after that. The working tax credits punishment for having a job that pays sh1t wages when someone else will be punished if you find a better job I am opposed to.
What I've found strange, ever so slightly off topic, is why people are listening to the same economic 'experts' that didn't foresee the crash. Firstly, many 'crashes' are manipulated and not at all sporadic events. The general pattern being print/create a ton of money and lend it to anyone who wants it regardless of whether they can afford it.........then pull the plug. Oh well, such is life.
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