This accusation was most notably thrown at Corbyn last week and and the defence from the left is usually that tolerance etc are actually British traits to be proud of.

Today I read something about the Black Power salute at the Mexico Olympics suggesting that the white Australian silver medalist suffered, as do people to this day in both countries as a result of 'racism imposed by British rule'.

Is that fair or are there quite a few self loathing Brits in that same way that there's trust fund guilt?

I find this awful Great Britain a bit paradoxical but wonder if it's just been bad since Cameron?

Edited by johnfirewall (11 Oct 2015 6.43pm)

Read this several times - but ?

Haha

The Aussie who was on the podium with those guys wore an Olympic Project for Human Rights badge and also opted not to sing his national anthem and faced a backlash from the Australian Olympic Committee.

The quote you highlight was from some idiot on Facebook and I don't get it either. It just struck me as anti-British to blame us for the situation in 2 countries which have been independent for centuries.

By that logic Stirling they shouldn't support a football team. Imagine causing misery to another group of people by taunting them over their team's inadequacies.

I don't think egalitarians carry their logic over into games to be fair to them.

I view egalitarianism as very much a hypocritical ideology. Most of its advocates believe its tenets should be pushed onto the collective rather than demonstrating that they have lived by them themselves.

Edited by Stirlingsays (11 Oct 2015 10.31pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Or they have a different idea of what British is and means, than other people do. If we look back in the dark annuals of history, who was more British, William Wilberforce, who effectively made a pariah of himself against the slave trade, or the status quo who defended it. Ultimately, I would say that the true patriot is as much the man who holds his country to task and pushes towards a higher moral ground for his people and in doing so 'creates' a monument in history for their people (and in doing so, brings other nations along).

What made Britain great wasn't the wars or conquests, but the people who's achievements make a nation better than it was, and in doing so, brings changes that other nations follow. Brunell was a great engineer, not because he was British or he built x or y, but that engineers in other countries were inspired by him.

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