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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 4.31pm

A discussion of the 1983 General Election triggered me to re-read the Labour Party Manifesto of 1983.

The section on 'Britain and the Common Market' makes interesting reading and I thought it deserved a separate thread:

"Geography and history determine that Britain is part of Europe, and Labour wants to see Europe safe and prosperous. But the European Economic Community was never devised to suit us, and our experience as a member of it has made it more difficult for us to deal with our economic and industrial problems. It has sometimes weakened our ability to achieve the objectives of Labour's international policy. The next Labour government, committed to radical, socialist policies for reviving the British economy, is bound to find continued membership a most serious obstacle to the fulfilment of those policies. In particular the rules of the Treaty of Rome are bound to conflict with our strategy for economic growth and full employment, our proposals on industrial policy and for increasing trade, and our need to restore exchange controls and to regulate direct overseas investment. Moreover, by preventing us from buying food from the best sources of world supply, they would run counter to our plans to control prices and inflation. For all these reasons, British withdrawal from the Community is the right policy for Britain - to be completed well within the lifetime of the parliament. That is our commitment."

It could be from the UKIP manifesto (apart from the 'radical, socialist policies for ruining (sorry should read reviving) the British economy'. Why the complete change of direction Labour? I know left wingers are used to sudden changes of party line when they have to condemn things when they are perpetrated by people they disapprove of, but ignore the same things when they are carried out by comrades, but this is a startling turn around. I did read somewhere that Corbyn is still anti-EU, but I expect he is still mentally in 1983. In any event he is very quite on the subject.

 


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Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 07 Sep 15 4.37pm Send a Private Message to Sedlescombe Add Sedlescombe as a friend

Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Sep 15 4.41pm

Why the change after 32 years? Probably because of the elapse of 32 years. Nothing like the change of time to change minds.

 


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They were as naive with a severe lack of foresight then as UKIP are now.

 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 4.49pm

Quote Kermit8 at 07 Sep 2015 4.47pm

They were as naive with a severe lack of foresight then as UKIP are now.

You must be pleased that Labour lost the 1983 General Election then?

 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 4.52pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Sep 2015 4.41pm

Why the change after 32 years? Probably because of the elapse of 32 years. Nothing like the change of time to change minds.

Corbyn still wants clause 4, I see 97 years of it being a non-starter hasn't changed his mind.

 


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Quote leggedstruggle at 07 Sep 2015 4.49pm

Quote Kermit8 at 07 Sep 2015 4.47pm

They were as naive with a severe lack of foresight then as UKIP are now.

You must be pleased that Labour lost the 1983 General Election then?


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 4.54pm

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Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 07 Sep 15 4.57pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 07 Sep 2015 4.52pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Sep 2015 4.41pm

Why the change after 32 years? Probably because of the elapse of 32 years. Nothing like the change of time to change minds.

Corbyn still wants clause 4, I see 97 years of it being a non-starter hasn't changed his mind.

And what do you want? Its all well and good the anti-leftie rhetoric and mocking, but you don't actually seem to have a political party your affiliated with.


 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 4.58pm

Quote Kermit8 at 07 Sep 2015 4.53pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 07 Sep 2015 4.49pm

Quote Kermit8 at 07 Sep 2015 4.47pm

They were as naive with a severe lack of foresight then as UKIP are now.

You must be pleased that Labour lost the 1983 General Election then?


I was 18. I was still a virgin. I had other things on my mind.

You should have written to Jim'll Fix It.

 


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Quote leggedstruggle at 07 Sep 2015 4.54pm

Quote Sedlescombe at 07 Sep 2015 4.37pm

Why the complete change of direction Labour

Because Labour were running on an anti-capitalist manifesto and saw the EU as a capitalist club. UKIP and much of the Tory Party are anti EU because it prevents companies from being able to exploit their workforce

The so called free movement of labour due to the EU has certainly enabled companies to exploit their workforce with low wages.

Which is easily resolved by increasing the minimum wage.

 

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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 07 Sep 15 4.59pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Sep 2015 4.57pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 07 Sep 2015 4.52pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 07 Sep 2015 4.41pm

Why the change after 32 years? Probably because of the elapse of 32 years. Nothing like the change of time to change minds.

Corbyn still wants clause 4, I see 97 years of it being a non-starter hasn't changed his mind.

And what do you want? Its all well and good the anti-leftie rhetoric and mocking, but you don't actually seem to have a political party your affiliated with.


Christ no, I don't want to encourage the buggers.

 


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