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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Aug 15 4.56pm | |
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It's obvious the Syrians that are fleeing are refugees not migrants yet they don't seem to be allowed that title by the media and we are following their lead by lumping them in with others who are heading to Europe but who are not being persecuted. Someone somewhere is manipulating emotive language to suit certain agendas. Something is going on. Remember reading an article last year about a Yale or maybe Harvard grad - can't remember his name annoyingly - in the US who heads up a team who work on a mission to confuse the media and world opinion to such an extent that no one is quite clear about what is really going on anymore.
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leggedstruggle Croydon 24 Aug 15 5.01pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 24 Aug 2015 4.56pm
It's obvious the Syrians that are fleeing are refugees not migrants yet they don't seem to be allowed that title by the media and we are following their lead by lumping them in with others who are heading to Europe but who are not being persecuted. Someone somewhere is manipulating emotive language to suit certain agendas. Something is going on. Remember reading an article last year about a Yale or maybe Harvard grad - can't remember his name annoyingly - in the US who heads up a team who work on a mission to confuse the media and world opinion to such an extent that no one is quite clear about what is really going on anymore. Is Legaleagle a Yale or Harvard graduate?
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Catfish Burgess Hill 24 Aug 15 5.26pm | |
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Simple answer. You are not a refugee until you have been assessed and it is agreed that you meet the definition of refugee. Until then you are an asylum seeker.
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Jamesrichards8 24 Aug 15 5.33pm | |
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Well, these people, as true 'refugees' wouldn't be allowed to pick and choose which country they seek asylum in. They are in France, and other non-violent countries, yet seek asylum elsewhere. Refugees seek refuge in the first peaceful country they enter.
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Kermit8 Hevon 24 Aug 15 5.38pm | |
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Quote Jamesrichards8 at 24 Aug 2015 5.33pm
Well, these people, as true 'refugees' wouldn't be allowed to pick and choose which country they seek asylum in. They are in France, and other non-violent countries, yet seek asylum elsewhere. Refugees seek refuge in the first peaceful country they enter.
It is the manipulation of language that is interesting and our subservience to it.
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Stuk Top half 24 Aug 15 5.52pm | |
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They aren't.
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elgrande bedford 24 Aug 15 5.52pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 24 Aug 2015 5.38pm
Quote Jamesrichards8 at 24 Aug 2015 5.33pm
Well, these people, as true 'refugees' wouldn't be allowed to pick and choose which country they seek asylum in. They are in France, and other non-violent countries, yet seek asylum elsewhere. Refugees seek refuge in the first peaceful country they enter.
It is the manipulation of language that is interesting and our subservience to it.
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Hrolf The Ganger 24 Aug 15 5.53pm | |
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Surely you are both if you are fleeing danger.
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Stirlingsays 24 Aug 15 5.58pm | |
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By virtue of our location in Europe we should get very few actual refugees. Unless they have family here then they should be taking the first safe country.....though there are some reasonable exceptions to this. Bleeding hearts would like this country to pay for the provision and housing of foreigners when we haven't sorted out the problems of our own population.
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radsyrendot From Coventry now in Leicester 24 Aug 15 5.59pm | |
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In post office today 2 lads came in from Kosovo with 2 envelopes of £20 notes doing a money transfer back to there homeland 1 stayed 1 went out postmistress asked questions ie where he lived work his mate couldn't answer her she told him to tell friend to come back in he never other lad told her where he lived and his job as a cleaner
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Catfish Burgess Hill 24 Aug 15 6.00pm | |
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Quote Kermit8 at 24 Aug 2015 5.38pm
Quote Jamesrichards8 at 24 Aug 2015 5.33pm
Well, these people, as true 'refugees' wouldn't be allowed to pick and choose which country they seek asylum in. They are in France, and other non-violent countries, yet seek asylum elsewhere. Refugees seek refuge in the first peaceful country they enter.
It is the manipulation of language that is interesting and our subservience to it. It is entirely possible that the media are manipulating language but the expressions used officially are based on statute and conventions. Some expressions are used wrongly by the media such as deportation - which has a very precise meaning in law. The expressions such as illegal immigrant have bad connotations because of the way they were used as euphemisms in the 60s. Illegal immigrant is actually a reasonable description of someone who has entered the UK without permission.
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Stirlingsays 24 Aug 15 6.12pm | |
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Quote radsyrendot at 24 Aug 2015 5.59pm
In post office today 2 lads came in from Kosovo with 2 envelopes of £20 notes doing a money transfer back to there homeland 1 stayed 1 went out postmistress asked questions ie where he lived work his mate couldn't answer her she told him to tell friend to come back in he never other lad told her where he lived and his job as a cleaner
The pro-immigration surveys that your typical pro economic immigrant lefty quotes at you don't of course take account of the significant amount of money that is sent out of this country. A working class British worker is far less likely to do that.
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