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martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 22 Jul 15 1.36pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

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There may be trouble ahead.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 22 Jul 15 1.44pm

All inmates giving up ciggies at the same time is a splendid idea.
Perhaps when the prison service is fully privatised, Philip Morris could open a smoker's prison that doubles up as a tobacco factory. Cut down on wages and satiate prisoners' cravings.

 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 22 Jul 15 1.49pm

An absurd policy, to enforce when 80% of inmates smoke. Because what prison needs is another bigger black market and more tension.

What will happen is that smoking will continue. It'll just mean a cartel forming in each prison around smuggling in cigs and exploiting other prisoners (and possibly), and the occasional screw making being involved.

 


"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Stuk Flag Top half 22 Jul 15 3.53pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

I don't have much sympathy. You're severely restricted where you can smoke (or not smoke in the case of e-cigs) as a person at liberty.

Just allow them to smoke during outdoor breaks only.

I also think all the black market excuses are a joke, as they're admitting they're crap at controlling not only what comes and goes from prison, but also their ablility to notice when someone is smoking. Regardless of where/how they got it.

 


Optimistic as ever

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 22 Jul 15 4.30pm

Quote Stuk at 22 Jul 2015 3.53pm

I don't have much sympathy. You're severely restricted where you can smoke (or not smoke in the case of e-cigs) as a person at liberty.

Just allow them to smoke during outdoor breaks only.

I also think all the black market excuses are a joke, as they're admitting they're crap at controlling not only what comes and goes from prison, but also their ablility to notice when someone is smoking. Regardless of where/how they got it.

Friend of mine used to work in a prison, he said the unofficial rule regarding drug use was 'if its not taking the piss, let it go' because it made for an easier life for the guards.

The police generally are the same with people smoking weed in public. Its quite rare for them to actually arrest and charge someone for smoking a joint (its not worth the paperwork and hassle).

In the US there is a very real problem with Prison guards actually being directly involved in the prison black markets.


 


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johnno42000 Flag 22 Jul 15 4.30pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

It's part of Goves idea to teach the prisoners. In this case it will be cutting edge capitalism, part of the Economics curriculum.

 


'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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Stuk Flag Top half 22 Jul 15 4.40pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 22 Jul 2015 4.30pm

Quote Stuk at 22 Jul 2015 3.53pm

I don't have much sympathy. You're severely restricted where you can smoke (or not smoke in the case of e-cigs) as a person at liberty.

Just allow them to smoke during outdoor breaks only.

I also think all the black market excuses are a joke, as they're admitting they're crap at controlling not only what comes and goes from prison, but also their ablility to notice when someone is smoking. Regardless of where/how they got it.

Friend of mine used to work in a prison, he said the unofficial rule regarding drug use was 'if its not taking the piss, let it go' because it made for an easier life for the guards.

The police generally are the same with people smoking weed in public. Its quite rare for them to actually arrest and charge someone for smoking a joint (its not worth the paperwork and hassle).

In the US there is a very real problem with Prison guards actually being directly involved in the prison black markets.



How can doing something illegal in prison not be "taking the piss"?

What's made life easier for those choosing to ignore things, makes it significantly harder for those who don't agree with that stance.

"You can't have a go at me for smoking, when you turned a blind eye to my shooting up, officer."

 


Optimistic as ever

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bubble wrap Flag Carparks in South East London 23 Jul 15 4.42pm

Staggering that 80% of prisoners are Smokers.
Price of them these days they are probably doing crimes to buy them.

 

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The Sash Flag Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 23 Jul 15 4.46pm Send a Private Message to The Sash Add The Sash as a friend

10% Smoke Mayfair
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10% Smoke Golden Virginia
50% Smoke cock

 


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DanH Flag SW2 23 Jul 15 5.04pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Quote The Sash at 23 Jul 2015 4.46pm

10% Smoke Mayfair
10% Smoke Bensons
10% Smoke Golden Virginia
50% Smoke cock


Enough about the posters in General Talk, what about in prison?

 

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ghosteagle Flag 23 Jul 15 5.08pm Send a Private Message to ghosteagle Add ghosteagle as a friend

Quote jamiemartin721 at 22 Jul 2015 4.30pm

Quote Stuk at 22 Jul 2015 3.53pm

I don't have much sympathy. You're severely restricted where you can smoke (or not smoke in the case of e-cigs) as a person at liberty.

Just allow them to smoke during outdoor breaks only.

I also think all the black market excuses are a joke, as they're admitting they're crap at controlling not only what comes and goes from prison, but also their ablility to notice when someone is smoking. Regardless of where/how they got it.

Friend of mine used to work in a prison, he said the unofficial rule regarding drug use was 'if its not taking the piss, let it go' because it made for an easier life for the guards.

The police generally are the same with people smoking weed in public. Its quite rare for them to actually arrest and charge someone for smoking a joint (its not worth the paperwork and hassle).

In the US there is a very real problem with Prison guards actually being directly involved in the prison black markets.



Unless you are being blatant to the extent that they simply cannot ignore it they let it go. Regardless of what the law may say the police regard it as a waste of their time.

 

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Hoof Hearted 23 Jul 15 5.12pm

Quote DanH at 23 Jul 2015 5.04pm

Quote The Sash at 23 Jul 2015 4.46pm

10% Smoke Mayfair
10% Smoke Bensons
10% Smoke Golden Virginia
50% Smoke cock


Enough about the posters in General Talk, what about in prison?


It's good.... but it's not Carling!

Your four categories only add up to 80% Sash....... Doh!

 

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