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TheJudge 12 Jun 15 1.53pm | |
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In my opinion, he deserves hero status. The God Delusion is a must read. This headline is typical Guardian nonsense.
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npn Crowborough 12 Jun 15 2.05pm | |
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Quote TheJudge at 12 Jun 2015 1.53pm
In my opinion, he deserves hero status. The God Delusion is a must read. This headline is typical Guardian nonsense.
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Ouzo Dan Behind you 12 Jun 15 2.13pm | |
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Of course Dawkins is a hero.
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Ouzo Dan Behind you 12 Jun 15 2.15pm | |
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Quote TheJudge at 12 Jun 2015 1.53pm
In my opinion, he deserves hero status. The God Delusion is a must read. This headline is typical Guardian nonsense.
He never said that though did he?
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derben 12 Jun 15 2.15pm | |
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Quote TheJudge at 12 Jun 2015 1.53pm
In my opinion, he deserves hero status. The God Delusion is a must read. This headline is typical Guardian nonsense. I read most of the God Delusion (gave up before the finish though). I thought his ideas were poorly argued, almost made me take religion more seriously.
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npn Crowborough 12 Jun 15 2.19pm | |
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Quote TheJudge at 12 Jun 2015 1.53pm
In my opinion, he deserves hero status. The God Delusion is a must read. This headline is typical Guardian nonsense.
He never said that though did he? "Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice." Sounds pretty categorical.
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johnfirewall 12 Jun 15 2.31pm | |
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Clever bloke. The Internet was seemingly invented for him, or at least social media and its descent to complete irrationality. Stands by his views. Can't see him resigning over some daft sexist comment. Interesting article about what he had for dinner and his home decor. Did the writer actually get to the point? Because I didn't. Edited by johnfirewall (12 Jun 2015 2.34pm)
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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Jun 15 2.56pm | |
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I quite like him and read a lot of his books. Personally I don't really rate the God Delusion that much, he's clumsy with his theological and philosophical arguments and relies to heavily on semantics and rhetoric; falling into the same mistaken approach that Creationists do with evolution - they clearly don't understand what they're arguing against, and end up arguing against something entirely different. Now the 'Blind Watchmaker' makes the arguments much better, by sticking to a subject he clearly understands and you won't find a much better primer on Evolution than this and the 'Selfish Gene'. In fact the Blind Watchmaker is one of the best defenses of Evolution ever produced. Creationism doesn't need evidence to disprove, it immediately fail due to it being an attempt to present unscientific theory as a scientific theory. Similarly with intelligent design (Dawkins and many others have long since proved these to be unscientific and thus invalid science theories). Unfortunately Dawkins seems to have embraced the role of poster boy for atheism, and has increasingly found himself drawn into a slagging match, rather than argument. His initial issues with religion were valid, his later decent into a more adversarial atheist, undermine what was a valid argument.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Jun 15 2.59pm | |
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Quote TheJudge at 12 Jun 2015 1.53pm
In my opinion, he deserves hero status. The God Delusion is a must read. This headline is typical Guardian nonsense.
He never said that though did he? Pretty much, of course its his opinion. Its not necessarily an entirely flawed one, given that a lot of people do opt for an abortion on discovering Downs Syndrome. Then again he's very keen on evolutionary psychology, which generally given to such 'morality' (as its based in biology, its divorced from the idea of the individual - so from the perspective he's arguing its a species based moral imperative not a individual personal ethical one).
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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 Jun 15 3.02pm | |
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Also he's 74 year old man, it shouldn't be entirely surprising if he isn't a bit sexist or otherwise holding of prejudiced values.
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Ouzo Dan Behind you 12 Jun 15 3.16pm | |
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Quote TheJudge at 12 Jun 2015 1.53pm
In my opinion, he deserves hero status. The God Delusion is a must read. This headline is typical Guardian nonsense.
He never said that though did he? "Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice." Sounds pretty categorical. Happy to give you this round but his opinion was expanded on, think about how much of a disadvantage a child born with downs faces vs a child without, this is the crux of Dawkins argument in a majority of cases people with downs are pushed to the fringes of society & forgotten about.
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npn Crowborough 12 Jun 15 3.20pm | |
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Quote TheJudge at 12 Jun 2015 1.53pm
In my opinion, he deserves hero status. The God Delusion is a must read. This headline is typical Guardian nonsense.
He never said that though did he? "Abort it and try again. It would be immoral to bring it into the world if you have the choice." Sounds pretty categorical. Happy to give you this round but his opinion was expanded on, think about how much of a disadvantage a child born with downs faces vs a child without, this is the crux of Dawkins argument in a majority of cases people with downs are pushed to the fringes of society & forgotten about.
I could even cope with his personal decision to abort, but to claim it's immoral not to seems to go against nature's way.
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