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lil j-eagle little bookham 12 May 15 2.59pm | |
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Back to new labour to appeal to the middle class more? Go further left? Stay where they are but with a better strategy?
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imbored UK 12 May 15 3.05pm | |
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ghosteagle 12 May 15 3.41pm | |
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Quote lil j-eagle at 12 May 2015 2.59pm
Back to new labour to appeal to the middle class more? Go further left? Stay where they are but with a better strategy? Probably a futile and pathetic move in towards the centre.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 12 May 15 3.44pm | |
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They'll change their name to New Tory.
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imbored UK 12 May 15 3.46pm | |
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Quote lil j-eagle at 12 May 2015 2.59pm
Back to new labour to appeal to the middle class more? Go further left? Stay where they are but with a better strategy? Probably a futile and pathetic move in towards the centre. Not exactly futile. In two party politics you're never many elections from being back in power.
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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 May 15 4.02pm | |
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Thing is that they actually did better than they did in 2010, just not in Scotland. Their share of the vote is higher and their percentage increased. In terms of the UK they were only 6% off the Conservatives, despite taking a right royal bumming from the SNP. Outside of Jocklandia, they gained 22 seats over all. 232 Seats is a fairly respectable result, all told, in 1997 the Conservatives lost with only 165 to Labours 418. The big swing since then has been the demise of the Liberal Democrats, and the rise of the Green, UKIP and SNP.
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johnno42000 12 May 15 4.05pm | |
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They could split and have a completely separate Labour party for Scotland which could be left of centre to appeal to the more left wing voters in Scotland. The English Labour party could be more centrist to appeal to the voters in England and Wales. Obviously they would both be close allies but separate much like the Conservatives and the DUP or Labour and the SDLP.
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ghosteagle 12 May 15 4.10pm | |
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Quote lil j-eagle at 12 May 2015 2.59pm
Back to new labour to appeal to the middle class more? Go further left? Stay where they are but with a better strategy? Probably a futile and pathetic move in towards the centre. Not exactly futile. In two party politics you're never many elections from being back in power. Agreed. I meant futile more in the sense that if Labour moves back towards the centre as urged by Mandelson et co then it may gain power but only as a tory-lite party.
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imbored UK 12 May 15 4.14pm | |
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Quote lil j-eagle at 12 May 2015 2.59pm
Back to new labour to appeal to the middle class more? Go further left? Stay where they are but with a better strategy? Probably a futile and pathetic move in towards the centre. Not exactly futile. In two party politics you're never many elections from being back in power. Agreed. I meant futile more in the sense that if Labour moves back towards the centre as urged by Mandelson et co then it may gain power but only as a tory-lite party. That's true and somewhat unfortunate.
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Stuk Top half 12 May 15 4.14pm | |
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They'll seperate themselves entirely from the unions if they know what's good for them.
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ghosteagle 12 May 15 4.15pm | |
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Quote Stuk at 12 May 2015 4.14pm
They'll seperate themselves entirely from the unions if they know what's good for them. How will this help?
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jamiemartin721 Reading 12 May 15 4.19pm | |
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Quote Stuk at 12 May 2015 4.14pm
They'll seperate themselves entirely from the unions if they know what's good for them. I think they need maybe to look back more towards re-establishing their core roots and basis, they did remarkably well under Blair (admittedly against a Conservative party that was dead on its feet). Their problem, is how do they make up for the losses in Scotland. After that, the difference between the number of seats for a majority, is fairly minor. They'd be 20 or so seats off a Majority.
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