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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 27 Sep 21 1.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Orange1290
No other country has forced 25,000 HGV drivers to leave their country and go back to another country, only the UK has done that and that is primarily caused by 'brexit'. That's an extra 25,000 more for EU countries, in effect making it a 50,000 deficit. Additionally, with freedom of movement across the 27 nation bloc, resources can and will move where they are needed most. None of the EU 27 have massive queues at gas stations, none have supermarkets and retailers with empty shelves, none are having to issue 'visas' to get drivers and none has had to stoop so low in desperation as to call the army i. To keep their countries going. Nice try but epic fail. Brexit happened, you lost, get over it!!!
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 27 Sep 21 1.35pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
So how do you explain us having the biggest shortage of any European country? Why have the government rushed to approve new visas if it's nothing to do with Brexit? To deny Brexit is a factor in this doesn't seem at all logical to me - of course there are a myriad of other factors, of which Covid is a huge one, but it's very obvious that Brexit is too.
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the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 27 Sep 21 1.39pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
So how do you explain us having the biggest shortage of any European country? Why have the government rushed to approve new visas if it's nothing to do with Brexit? To deny Brexit is a factor in this doesn't seem at all logical to me - of course there are a myriad of other factors, of which Covid is a huge one, but it's very obvious that Brexit is too. Of course Brexit is PART of the problem, along with Covid, s***e wages for truckers and even s***er working conditions for those truckers....who would want to do the job under the terms they have to deal with, lack of parking, only being allowed to deliver at crap times of the day/night and the mountains of paperwork, all for a rubbish pay packet..?
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 27 Sep 21 1.42pm | |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Of course Brexit is PART of the problem, along with Covid, s***e wages for truckers and even s***er working conditions for those truckers....who would want to do the job under the terms they have to deal with, lack of parking, only being allowed to deliver at crap times of the day/night and the mountains of paperwork, all for a rubbish pay packet..? I agree - my point was that most people are unwilling to concede even that.
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Teddy Eagle 27 Sep 21 2.03pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
So how do you explain us having the biggest shortage of any European country? Why have the government rushed to approve new visas if it's nothing to do with Brexit? To deny Brexit is a factor in this doesn't seem at all logical to me - of course there are a myriad of other factors, of which Covid is a huge one, but it's very obvious that Brexit is too. I’m not denying it as a factor, although I don’t remember anyone previously mentioning it as a likely outcome, just pointing out that there is a similar shortage in countries not affected by Brexit.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 27 Sep 21 2.09pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I agree - my point was that most people are unwilling to concede even that. Yes, most sensible posters would agree brexit is either the main problem or part of the problem. If it is just part of the problem, then so far, it has been a failure! In years to come, it might turn in to a positive, or maybe an even bigger failure! As for other countries needing lorry drivers, that is just in a perfect scenario, they don"t have food shortages or fuel stations empty like us. We really are the ass end of europe, and its all our own doing! As a Spanish bloke said to me in Croydon, "its laughable, they voted for this though-now they have fcuked themselves!" "Fcuked themselves indeed," I replied.
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Orange1290 27 Sep 21 2.31pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
I’m not denying it as a factor, although I don’t remember anyone previously mentioning it as a likely outcome, just pointing out that there is a similar shortage in countries not affected by Brexit.
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 27 Sep 21 2.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
If it turns out there is a shortage of turkeys, or anything else, it seems a fair exchange for migrant workers not being exploited in minimum wage jobs by fat cat business owners , wouldn’t you say? Boris was trying to get our christmas turkeys on the qt from Brasil, whats wrong with norfolk?
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croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 27 Sep 21 2.42pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Stop relying on cheap foreign labour and start paying your own staff a decent wage and training them. We would still have this problem if we had remained. Too little investment and poor productivity, blimey I sound like a lefty. You do brother!
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Teddy Eagle 27 Sep 21 2.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Orange1290
Give it time.
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Orange1290 27 Sep 21 3.09pm | |
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Teddy Eagle 27 Sep 21 3.34pm | |
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Originally posted by Orange1290
The epic fail here is yours for assuming I am/was a Brexit voter which for the record isn’t correct.
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