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Stirlingsays 08 Jan 20 10.47pm | |
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Another definition is: 'A group or class of people seen as having the greatest power and influence within a society, especially because of their wealth or privilege.' A better definition. The 'superiority' definition is a rather different form of 'elite' than being used here in a social context. The SAS could be described as elite, or the top sprinters as the elite in their field.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 10.47pm | |
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Every group has it's exceptions, especially in the not fit for purpose political system that is the USA. The only thing that Trump is superior at is being the worst POTUS ever to have been elected. He stands head and shoulders above every other candidate.
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Stirlingsays 08 Jan 20 10.50pm | |
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Sorry, you don't get to wiggle away from the trap. You said elites were superior by repeating a rather poor definition....you didn't include an 'exception' in there. Perhaps you should have looked for a better definition like I did. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jan 2020 10.51pm)
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Teddy Eagle 08 Jan 20 10.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Writers only write what will attract audiences. Fail to do that and the work dries up as my friend who was one of the original writers on Eastenders has told me. He has had a very successful career studying what is happening and what people want to know about, then researching it very thoroughly so what is presented is authentic. That some aren't interested is just par for the course. There are tonnes of alternative choices these days. No-one is obliged to watch anything. I avoid many subjects I am either not interested in or find distasteful. And the BBC not depending on audience share to pay for itself has nothing to do with it?
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 10.59pm | |
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Do our policemen, or indeed our MPs, have much wealth and privilege? It's escaped me. Nor do all but a very few at the BBC! Changing the definition of a term simply because it doesn't suit your perspective has long been a convenient refuge of the biased. The definition I provided was sourced. It was not my own. There are many others. Cambridge says:- "the richest, most powerful, best-educated, or best-trained group in a society". That seems to cover most situations.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 11.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
And the BBC not depending on audience share to pay for itself has nothing to do with it? BBC writers whose shows don't attract audiences don't get recommissioned. Documentaries are different, to a degree, as they are intended to inform rather than entertain, but audience response is still very important. I avoid reality shows. It isn't difficult.
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Stirlingsays 08 Jan 20 11.04pm | |
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Their acquisition of the 'elite' description comes from power....which is privilege obviously. Keep up.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 11.10pm | |
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The definition quoted was:- ""A select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society." The groups quoted and being responded to were all British. They did not include any from the USA let alone Donald Trump as POTUS. His introduction is just another example of the very common diversion tactic which is used here so often. So the "trap" was about as effective as trying to catch a tiger with a hook and line.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 08 Jan 20 11.14pm | |
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Our policemen and our MPs don't have any power. Not on their own, as individuals. They just have responsibilities. Governments have power. Normally. Armed forces can use power but in normal circumstances don't have any themselves.
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Stirlingsays 08 Jan 20 11.22pm | |
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Oh I see, nationality makes a difference to the 'elite' definition. ? MPs and Police individuals don't have power.....they have responsibilities. ? Pure waffle merchant....just can't take his beatings like a man.
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Teddy Eagle 08 Jan 20 11.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
BBC writers whose shows don't attract audiences don't get recommissioned. Documentaries are different, to a degree, as they are intended to inform rather than entertain, but audience response is still very important. I avoid reality shows. It isn't difficult. Not on a soap opera but in most cases the programme is dropped rather than the writer.
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cryrst The garden of England 09 Jan 20 5.44am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That writers decide to cover issues they consider of current interest should surprise no-one. Nor should it that some don't want them covered. Even "The Archers" does that and always has. Of current interest to whom and how many?
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