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Far away fan On the border of jungle 22 Nov 22 8.08am | |
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I believe they should be shot, they are illegal and putting national security at risk, while British homeless dying on the streets while invaders in hotels.
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Badger11 Beckenham 22 Nov 22 8.36am | |
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I think we can all agree with the sentiment. However I do not trust Labour when he says restrict immigration to skilled labour how does he define skilled? IT workers, engineers, NHS medical staff, fair enough. Or is Skilled a code word for Shelf stackers, car washers, waiters etc.
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Stirlingsays 22 Nov 22 1.52pm | |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I think we can all agree with the sentiment. However I do not trust Labour when he says restrict immigration to skilled labour how does he define skilled? IT workers, engineers, NHS medical staff, fair enough. Or is Skilled a code word for Shelf stackers, car washers, waiters etc. This has Tony Blair's fingerprints all over it. It's his method of beating the Tories, cloak yourself in their policies to appear acceptable to a percent of their voters. It's a lie of course and I detest liars, however it's going to work because....again, a percent of people are easily manipulated by propaganda. The Tories are truly fecked.....but they did it, pretty much exclusively to themselves.
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PalazioVecchio south pole 22 Nov 22 4.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The Tories are truly fecked.....but they did it, pretty much exclusively to themselves. since 1946 the Tories have been promising to control immigration, and winning elections off the back of that promise. And the public continue to vote for them. Isn't that the definition of madness ? to be continuously doing the same failed activity and hoping for a better outcome the next time ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (22 Nov 2022 5.06pm)
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Stirlingsays 22 Nov 22 5.25pm | |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
since 1946 the Tories have been promising to control immigration, and winning elections off the back of that promise. And the public continue to vote for them. Isn't that the definition of madness ? to be continuously doing the same failed activity and hoping for a better outcome the next time ? Edited by PalazioVecchio (22 Nov 2022 5.06pm) Yep, I think Einstein coined that idea. The Tories have certainly lied to and betrayed their base. A party should always tell the truth to those who knock on the doors for them and do all the unpaid donkey work that needs to be done. But on immigration it's been nothing but half truth and lies. But there's a certain level of contempt that the party elite have for the ones paying those dues.....That's with both Tory and Labour. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Nov 2022 5.26pm)
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Hrolf The Ganger 23 Nov 22 9.39am | |
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Keir Starmer will say anything to get elected. Anyone who believes anything he says, particularly about immigration, is a deluded fool. The only answer is a third breakaway party who would actually campaign on preserving Britain as much as that is possible after decades of mass immigration and actually follow through on what has been obviously needed for those said decades. More training for British workers. The more people you have here, the greater the cost. The greater the cost, the more people you need.
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silvertop Portishead 23 Nov 22 9.52am | |
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Originally posted by Far away fan
I believe they should be shot, they are illegal and putting national security at risk, while British homeless dying on the streets while invaders in hotels. Well they will not be as, fortunately, Germany lost the war.
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silvertop Portishead 23 Nov 22 10.03am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Keir Starmer will say anything to get elected. Anyone who believes anything he says, particularly about immigration, is a deluded fool. The only answer is a third breakaway party who would actually campaign on preserving Britain as much as that is possible after decades of mass immigration and actually follow through on what has been obviously needed for those said decades. More training for British workers. The more people you have here, the greater the cost. The greater the cost, the more people you need. Yes, but is he alone in that? Your dream of a predominately right-wing anti-immigration party is not unlikely, and this site is proof that there is much cry for it, but I fear you will end up bitterly disappointed. The current crop are already the type of populist Brexiteers who would jump ship and seek to dominate that party; and they have proven themselves to be duplicitous and the lowest hanging fruit in terms of quality. What follows is likely to be even worse, with an appalling "charismatic" leader waiting to rise and lead them. You will no doubt disagree with this, but a Labour lurching to the right or a Tory to the center, either who promise these objectives, will be the best balance in terms of quality of delivery and stewardship of our battered economy.
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silvertop Portishead 23 Nov 22 10.07am | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
This has Tony Blair's fingerprints all over it. It's his method of beating the Tories, cloak yourself in their policies to appear acceptable to a percent of their voters. It's a lie of course and I detest liars, however it's going to work because....again, a percent of people are easily manipulated by propaganda. The Tories are truly fecked.....but they did it, pretty much exclusively to themselves. And like I said to Hrolf, true, but not a characteristic unique to Labour. And if they come good on the deal, what do you care who they are if this is the policy you are most interested in? "IF", of course, is the key word.
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The Dolphin 23 Nov 22 10.20am | |
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Blair is apparently all over Labour at the moment, telling them what to do and how to do it.
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 23 Nov 22 12.30pm | |
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I noticed that in Ireland Ukrainian refugees are at 50,000 and rising, whilst "international protection" asylum seekers and the like are massively up at 17,000 odd already - expected to be 20,000. It's 4 percent of our entire population.
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silvertop Portishead 23 Nov 22 1.46pm | |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
Blair is apparently all over Labour at the moment, telling them what to do and how to do it. Economy then.
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