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RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968. He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris. Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit. Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology! Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed? Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS! Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters? These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith. We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds. Do we want blood on our streets? Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" ! I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything. I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest! Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law. It's our choice. Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am) What do you suggest I say to the muslim kids in my class and their parents? Seem to be lovely families, as far from terrorism as you can imagine.
What do you say to your own kids if your wife doesn't make it home one night because her bus/tube/car was bombed?
That's what happened in WWII nick.... all German's were interned for the duration of the war (which we won possibly due to removing the threat of the enemy within). BTW.... I don't expect you, Kermit, Legal etc to be on board with my message. Let me get this right. You are saying all Muslims in the UK should be put inside?
Rather than addressing the problem of Muslims and their culture differences/threat to our society, you embark on a "lets out a racist" crusade. Pathetic. Haven't called you racist have I? There are around 6,000,000 Muslims in France, out of this many, 6 commit atrocities.
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Oh the benefits of immigration and multiculturalism. I and many others have predicted attacks from a subset of migrants: It's inevitable. All immigration should be open to scrutiny as much as humanly possible. Thankfully for the time being we haven't been as welcoming as France or Germany. Their politicians have been reckless and idealistic. The supporters of unfetted immigration deserve all the scorn they get. This is one of the inevitable consequences of the policies they support. Nail....Head France has paid a heavy price for turning a blind eye to the illegal foreigners in their country. They probably assume they all want to come to Britain so just waved them on and thought the problem would dissapear. After this We cannot take a single refugee unless we know exactly who they are and they are genuine otherwise the same bloodshed in London is inevitable. I don't think that France is "turning a blind eye" to anything after what has happened there previously and if I were a gambling man I would wager that the perpetrators of these attacks were "legally" in the country. However, I do believe that the current migrant crisis is an ideal opportunity for extremist groups to insert operatives into countries they want to attack. Our proplems with extremism tend to be be more home grown but we will have to be even more vigilant all the same. Unfortunately I can't see this getting any better anytime soon. I didn't agree with sending troops into Iraq or Afghanistan and I think that air campaigns can be too indiscriminate and can cause more problems when bombs fall on enemies and supporters alike but without boots on the ground, it's hard to see how imbedded extremist groups can be combatted. Even then, sending troops into a civil war that has pulled outside extremist groups into the country, is not really a viable option at this time. Major foreign powers are already bombing and swapping the country with arms to all sides. There are so many opposing groups, all with their own agendas and scores to settle. It's almost impossible to work out a clear objective for any ground forces or an exit strategy that would leave the country a more stable and peaceful place for all. It's one hell of a mess and I think that will be the status quo for a very long time to come. This has the potential to make the Palestinian/Israeli conflict look like a playground fight.
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| rednblue4eva Norwood 14 Nov 15 11.36am |
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Perhaps Corbyn will tell us that the French Police should have done more to spare their lives and bring them to court..
Lord have mercy, not even a thought for those who have suffered before you use the thread to peddle an agenda. Look at yourself. Still, I don't suppose you will be the last. Edited by Mr Palaceman (14 Nov 2015 12.41am) Edited by Mr Palaceman (14 Nov 2015 12.42am) Shut up boy! He has a point, you're a f***ing moron. Yep - complete moron, using a tragic even to promote his political messages
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| lanzarote ron East Grinstead 14 Nov 15 11.38am |
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Maybe it's time for the French to take the guillotine out of storage & grease the runners up with a bit of pig fat.
When you're dead you don't know you're dead. It is difficult only for the others. It's the same when you're stupid. |
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RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968. He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris. Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit. Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology! Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed? Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS! Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters? These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith. We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds. Do we want blood on our streets? Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" ! I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything. I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest! Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law. It's our choice. Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am) What do you suggest I say to the muslim kids in my class and their parents? Seem to be lovely families, as far from terrorism as you can imagine.
What do you say to your own kids if your wife doesn't make it home one night because her bus/tube/car was bombed?
That's what happened in WWII nick.... all German's were interned for the duration of the war (which we won possibly due to removing the threat of the enemy within). BTW.... I don't expect you, Kermit, Legal etc to be on board with my message. Let me get this right. You are saying all Muslims in the UK should be put inside?
Rather than addressing the problem of Muslims and their culture differences/threat to our society, you embark on a "lets out a racist" crusade. Pathetic.
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| gambler Kent 14 Nov 15 11.41am |
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What a thread! Go to France and spout your s*** you c***s.
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| JL85 London,SE9 14 Nov 15 11.45am |
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RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968. He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris. Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit. Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology! Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed? Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS! Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters? These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith. We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds. Do we want blood on our streets? Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" ! I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything. I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest! Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law. It's our choice. Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am) What do you suggest I say to the muslim kids in my class and their parents? Seem to be lovely families, as far from terrorism as you can imagine.
What do you say to your own kids if your wife doesn't make it home one night because her bus/tube/car was bombed?
That's what happened in WWII nick.... all German's were interned for the duration of the war (which we won possibly due to removing the threat of the enemy within). BTW.... I don't expect you, Kermit, Legal etc to be on board with my message. Let me get this right. You are saying all Muslims in the UK should be put inside?
Rather than addressing the problem of Muslims and their culture differences/threat to our society, you embark on a "lets out a racist" crusade. Pathetic.
You are quite literally suggesting we do it anyway to combat the problem. Human Rights no longer become rights when a politician or Army General decides who gets what. That goes for all of us, not just Ahmed and his pals who always looked a bit shifty going about their business. What about white, British Muslim's? How would you enforce such a thing?
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| nhp61 Goring-By-Sea born, now in Brackne... 14 Nov 15 11.46am |
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Terrible though the events of last were, it could have been so much worse. The France v Germany game was being played at the time, so the area outside the stadium was relatively quiet. Imagine if the terrorists at the stadium attacked before or just after the game. Tens of thousands of people in a relatively small area attacked by suicide bombers...
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RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968. He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris. Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit. Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology! Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed? Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS! Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters? These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith. We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds. Do we want blood on our streets? Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" ! I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything. I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest! Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law. It's our choice. Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am) What do you suggest I say to the muslim kids in my class and their parents? Seem to be lovely families, as far from terrorism as you can imagine.
What do you say to your own kids if your wife doesn't make it home one night because her bus/tube/car was bombed?
That's what happened in WWII nick.... all German's were interned for the duration of the war (which we won possibly due to removing the threat of the enemy within). BTW.... I don't expect you, Kermit, Legal etc to be on board with my message. Let me get this right. You are saying all Muslims in the UK should be put inside?
Rather than addressing the problem of Muslims and their culture differences/threat to our society, you embark on a "lets out a racist" crusade. Pathetic. Haven't called you racist have I? There are around 6,000,000 Muslims in France, out of this many, 6 commit atrocities.
News reports said there were 8 involved for starters and you are reducing that to 6... why? What I am saying is that these 8 people had help from the muslim community.... you can bet your leather sandals on it. We need to be more vigil and approve heightened powers for MI6 and home security forces rather than regarding it as an affront to our civil liberties. Until we know what an actual terrorist looks like, we should suspect and challenge everyone.
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What do you suggest I say to the muslim kids in my class and their parents? Seem to be lovely families, as far from terrorism as you can imagine.
When they've all said how awful it was and how they condemn the actions of a minority of lunatics who have absolutely nothing to do with them, report back Monday evening and that will likely shut a few people on here up rather than your assurances over the families. I'm by no means silence = complicity but I'd be screaming out to defend my faith in the same way anti-war Westeners take to the streets and in fact are permanently present outside Parliament.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Nov 15 11.54am |
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RIVERS OF BLOOD.......... Enoch Powell..... April 1968. He was laughed at, shouted down even... and here we are nearly 50 years later talking about the very things he predicted happening in Paris. Jimenez was correct at the beginning of this thread... we are at war........ with Islam Kermit. Not just a few religious zealots or fundamentalists but with Islam itself... the whole ideology! Islam calls itself the religion of peace, but the holy Koran directs it's followers to kill all infidels (unbelievers)... but we hear so often that most followers don't take this as a literal instruction. Why have it in there then? How many other religions have such a clear message in it's scriptures to direct people to kill? The Holy Bible says "Thou Shalt Not Kill"... I'm not clued up on all religions though, but I doubt any others encourage bloodshed? Why do we tolerate the way Islam treats women as 2nd class citizens, forcing them to dress in Burkhas. denying them education and just being servants to the males? Female Genital Mutilation FFS! Why are they living here in a culture that is alien to their preachings... no alcohol, gay and lesbians, non halal meat eaters? These people that carried out tonight's atrocities were highly trained and part of a network that has been helped by the Paris/French Muslim community. They could not have carried out this level of terrorism without the so called moderates being aware of what was going down. Of course now we will hear from the Muslim Council of Great Britain (and/or their French counterparts)decrying the act and how it offends Muslims and their faith. We are at war and we need to adopt the same mindset of Churchill during WWII and start interning again those Muslims preaching hate rather than releasing them because Liberal namby pambys think it's a crime to do so. We also need to sort out ISIS (or whatever they call themselves) killing and destroying people and historical religious property in Syria and everywhere else they operate around the globe. Shut down their websites glorifying their deeds and attempts to radicalise and recruit young minds. Do we want blood on our streets? Luckily we were not as stupid as the rest of Europe and have tightened our border controls and beefed up our security and intelligence capabilities.... even though the Liberal minded regard this an "affront to their civil liberties" ! I think this will see a rise in UKIP's popularity again as well as many turning to BNP/EDL type political parties as they sense the likes of Corbyn and Labour will not even be dismayed by this outrage and blame ourselves, whilst Cameron speaks rhetoric about reprisals but not have the balls to actually do anything. I think Islam is like a wasp infestation - we are currently dealing with the problem by killing a few stray wasps with a rolled up newspaper. However we need to bring in the experts to destroy the nest! Or.... we can do nothing and slowly allow our population to be engulfed by Muslims and surrender to Sharia Law. It's our choice. Edited by Hoof Hearted (14 Nov 2015 10.37am) What do you suggest I say to the muslim kids in my class and their parents? Seem to be lovely families, as far from terrorism as you can imagine.
What do you say to your own kids if your wife doesn't make it home one night because her bus/tube/car was bombed?
That's what happened in WWII nick.... all German's were interned for the duration of the war (which we won possibly due to removing the threat of the enemy within). BTW.... I don't expect you, Kermit, Legal etc to be on board with my message. Let me get this right. You are saying all Muslims in the UK should be put inside?
Rather than addressing the problem of Muslims and their culture differences/threat to our society, you embark on a "lets out a racist" crusade. Pathetic. Haven't called you racist have I? There are around 6,000,000 Muslims in France, out of this many, 6 commit atrocities.
News reports said there were 8 involved for starters and you are reducing that to 6... why? What I am saying is that these 8 people had help from the muslim community.... you can bet your leather sandals on it. We need to be more vigil and approve heightened powers for MI6 and home security forces rather than regarding it as an affront to our civil liberties. Until we know what an actual terrorist looks like, we should suspect and challenge everyone. I am not playing down the threat. It plainly exists. However your solution, to my mind, is bizarre.
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What do you suggest I say to the muslim kids in my class and their parents? Seem to be lovely families, as far from terrorism as you can imagine.
When they've all said how awful it was and how they condemn the actions of a minority of lunatics who have absolutely nothing to do with them, report back Monday evening and that will likely shut a few people on here up rather than your assurances over the families. I'm by no means silence = complicity but I'd be screaming out to defend my faith in the same way anti-war Westeners take to the streets and in fact are permanently present outside Parliament.
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