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Jonny_Johnson Tel Aviv 12 Nov 15 7.20pm
Quote bilbo at 12 Nov 2015 7.04pm Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 6.42pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 6.09pm Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ... Grow up. For an apologist like you, perhaps you should grow a pair and stop denying yourself reality. What do you see when you look in the mirror? A reasonable human being I suspect. Do you house share? How would you know that?
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Tel Aviv 12 Nov 15 7.20pm

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Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm

For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ...

Grow up.

For an apologist like you, perhaps you should grow a pair and stop denying yourself reality. What do you see when you look in the mirror?

A reasonable human being I suspect.

Do you house share? How would you know that?

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 12 Nov 15 7.43pm
Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 7.20pm Quote bilbo at 12 Nov 2015 7.04pm Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 6.42pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 6.09pm Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ... Grow up. For an apologist like you, perhaps you should grow a pair and stop denying yourself reality. What do you see when you look in the mirror? A reasonable human being I suspect. Do you house share? How would you know that? Grow up. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."
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Where you have to have an English ... 12 Nov 15 7.43pm

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Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm

For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ...

Grow up.

For an apologist like you, perhaps you should grow a pair and stop denying yourself reality. What do you see when you look in the mirror?

A reasonable human being I suspect.

Do you house share? How would you know that?

Grow up.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 12 Nov 15 10.24pm
Quote pefwin at 12 Nov 2015 7.43pm Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 7.20pm Quote bilbo at 12 Nov 2015 7.04pm Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 6.42pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 6.09pm Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ... Grow up. For an apologist like you, perhaps you should grow a pair and stop denying yourself reality. What do you see when you look in the mirror? A reasonable human being I suspect. Do you house share? How would you know that? Grow up. Shut up, Peffers. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham
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Clapham on the Back 12 Nov 15 10.24pm

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Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm

For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ...

Grow up.

For an apologist like you, perhaps you should grow a pair and stop denying yourself reality. What do you see when you look in the mirror?

A reasonable human being I suspect.

Do you house share? How would you know that?

Grow up.

Shut up, Peffers.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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Hrolf The Ganger 12 Nov 15 10.34pm
Your majesty is like a streak of bats piss. I believe that was one of yours Oscar.
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Your majesty is like a streak of bats piss.

I believe that was one of yours Oscar.

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lancseagle burnley 12 Nov 15 11.51pm
Quote Kermit8 at 11 Nov 2015 11.28am Quote npn at 11 Nov 2015 9.02am Quote Kermit8 at 10 Nov 2015 10.56pm Vile stuff. It reminded me of when Israeli soldiers did the same and worse to a young Palestinian teenage girl [Link] Oh Kermie, you've let yourself down there - classic case of playing the man not the ball! While both cases are clearly absolutely disgusting, and the perpetrators of both deserve the harshest of punishments, to compare a modern-day case in the UK with one 60 years old in Palestine purely because the original poster is an Israeli is pretty harsh (not to mention irrelevant). If the OP were a German would you respond to his posts with links to what happened at Auschwitz? Yes you are right npn - man not ball - and on purpose as the OP has an anti-Muslim/Palestinian/Arab agenda. Just thought I would make it clear that rapists can be Catholics, Hindus and, for his benefit, Jewish as well as Muslim. All very bad ones I may add. Edited by Kermit8 (11 Nov 2015 11.29am) Spot on without digressing all good bad in every race colour creed etc.
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burnley 12 Nov 15 11.51pm

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Quote npn at 11 Nov 2015 9.02am

Quote Kermit8 at 10 Nov 2015 10.56pm

Vile stuff. It reminded me of when Israeli soldiers did the same and worse to a young Palestinian teenage girl [Link]

Oh Kermie, you've let yourself down there - classic case of playing the man not the ball!

While both cases are clearly absolutely disgusting, and the perpetrators of both deserve the harshest of punishments, to compare a modern-day case in the UK with one 60 years old in Palestine purely because the original poster is an Israeli is pretty harsh (not to mention irrelevant).

If the OP were a German would you respond to his posts with links to what happened at Auschwitz?

Yes you are right npn - man not ball - and on purpose as the OP has an anti-Muslim/Palestinian/Arab agenda. Just thought I would make it clear that rapists can be Catholics, Hindus and, for his benefit, Jewish as well as Muslim. All very bad ones I may add.

Edited by Kermit8 (11 Nov 2015 11.29am)

Spot on without digressing all good bad in every race colour creed etc.

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The Sash Now residing in Epsom - How Posh 13 Nov 15 8.17am
Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ... I am not sure whether you are simply an ignoramus with an agenda, purely on a bit wind up or just a bit dolly dimple. Suspect a bit of all 3. Edited by The Sash (13 Nov 2015 8.19am) As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014
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Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm

For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ...

I am not sure whether you are simply an ignoramus with an agenda, purely on a bit wind up or just a bit dolly dimple.

Suspect a bit of all 3.

Edited by The Sash (13 Nov 2015 8.19am)

As far as the rules go, it's a website not a democracy - Hambo 3/6/2014

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 13 Nov 15 8.45am
Quote The Sash at 13 Nov 2015 8.17am Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ... I am not sure whether you are simply an ignoramus with an agenda, purely on a bit wind up or just a bit dolly dimple. Suspect a bit of all 3. Edited by The Sash (13 Nov 2015 8.19am) Of course we all know Israel is the last bastion of human kindness and in no way beat the living sh1t out of Palestine on a daily basis. "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 13 Nov 15 8.45am

Quote The Sash at 13 Nov 2015 8.17am

Quote Jonny_Johnson at 12 Nov 2015 5.50pm

For all those that apologise for the Islamic culture of contempt and bury your head in the sands, perhaps you can subscribe to an alternate universe view ...

I am not sure whether you are simply an ignoramus with an agenda, purely on a bit wind up or just a bit dolly dimple.

Suspect a bit of all 3.

Edited by The Sash (13 Nov 2015 8.19am)

Of course we all know Israel is the last bastion of human kindness and in no way beat the living sh1t out of Palestine on a daily basis.

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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jamiemartin721 Reading 13 Nov 15 10.40am
Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Nov 2015 6.16pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 6.05pm Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Nov 2015 3.37pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 1.35pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Nov 2015 10.59am Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 8.28pm Now you see this is what I can not understand. No one on here saying that all rapes are commited by Muslim/pakistani men. What is trying to be high lighted,is that it is a growing problem. But the left leaning on here just want to tar everybody who thinks its a problem as Racist. And I don't think any one has tried to say all rapes are carried out by Muslim/pakistani men. So cut out the sensationalisn,all rape is disgusting and the rapists deserve stringing up by the bollocks then beaten to death. Your very valid comment highlighted in red above has been overlooked by many on here. Ridiculous comparisons with a 1949 Israeli rape case and trying to play down the fact that Muslims participating in gang rape is a growing problem makes the left leaning on here look very silly and/or irresponsible. I doubt its actually a growing problem, but rather one that has achieved recent highlighting in the media and popularity. I wouldn't say that I was playing down Muslims or gang rape, but highlighting the fact that we tend to focus on rather convenient misdirections that allow us to place the blame on 'different cultures', rather than addressing the problem with all men in all societies. Focusing on the 12%, rather than the 100% of the problem is utterly stupid. The problem isn't with Islam or Muslims, its with men, irrespective of culture. Or are we also to presume that White British Light Entertainment also promotes a culture of rape. Of course it doesn't, the problem lies in all cultures and within 'male status and power within society and culture' - and pakistani and Muslim cultures are very male orientated power cultures, but we're not exactly far behind them. And it stems from exactly the same sources. Status, power, gender inequality, education and identity. The problem is in how we raise men, how men think about women and sex, regard women and sex, value women and sex. Its also not about 'winning arguements' but the reality of facts. We're arguing about a small percentage of offenders, based on a convenient correlation, because its easier than admitting that there is a massive problem in society with sexual violence and abuse aimed against women. Forgive me, but you seem to be doing cartwheels to avoid facts. Muslim men either commit a disproportionate amount of rape or they don't. That is the beginning and end of it. We all know men are the cause. I'm sure that back in prehistoric times rape was normal but with the advent of society and morality, men had to curb their sexual urges. It's not rocket science. Culture effects behavior and not all culture is the same. Rape is defined by law - so the last part is somewhat flippent. I meant that varying culture will effect peoples attitudes differently. The bottom line is the law as you point out. I see the danger in highlighting these sorts of statistics but I also see the benefits. Fueling right wing blood lust is not something anyone wants to do but there is also duty of care to the public. It is a tightrope. I'm a big fan of statistical data and information, I'd like to see all relevant data sets, rather than just a few, and see them calculated over periods of time so that outliers can be identified. Only by approaching data in the most objective terms possible, can you produce statistical significance and reliable facts. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 13 Nov 15 10.40am

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Nov 2015 6.16pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 6.05pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Nov 2015 3.37pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 1.35pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Nov 2015 10.59am

Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 8.28pm

Now you see this is what I can not understand.
No one on here saying that all rapes are commited by Muslim/pakistani men.
What is trying to be high lighted,is that it is a growing problem.

But the left leaning on here just want to tar everybody who thinks its a problem as Racist.

And I don't think any one has tried to say all rapes are carried out by Muslim/pakistani men.
So cut out the sensationalisn,all rape is disgusting and the rapists deserve stringing up by the bollocks then beaten to death.

Your very valid comment highlighted in red above has been overlooked by many on here.

Ridiculous comparisons with a 1949 Israeli rape case and trying to play down the fact that Muslims participating in gang rape is a growing problem makes the left leaning on here look very silly and/or irresponsible.

I doubt its actually a growing problem, but rather one that has achieved recent highlighting in the media and popularity. I wouldn't say that I was playing down Muslims or gang rape, but highlighting the fact that we tend to focus on rather convenient misdirections that allow us to place the blame on 'different cultures', rather than addressing the problem with all men in all societies.

Focusing on the 12%, rather than the 100% of the problem is utterly stupid. The problem isn't with Islam or Muslims, its with men, irrespective of culture.

Or are we also to presume that White British Light Entertainment also promotes a culture of rape. Of course it doesn't, the problem lies in all cultures and within 'male status and power within society and culture' - and pakistani and Muslim cultures are very male orientated power cultures, but we're not exactly far behind them.

And it stems from exactly the same sources. Status, power, gender inequality, education and identity.

The problem is in how we raise men, how men think about women and sex, regard women and sex, value women and sex.

Its also not about 'winning arguements' but the reality of facts. We're arguing about a small percentage of offenders, based on a convenient correlation, because its easier than admitting that there is a massive problem in society with sexual violence and abuse aimed against women.

Forgive me, but you seem to be doing cartwheels to avoid facts.
Muslim men either commit a disproportionate amount of rape or they don't. That is the beginning and end of it.
We all know men are the cause. I'm sure that back in prehistoric times rape was normal but with the advent of society and morality, men had to curb their sexual urges. It's not rocket science. Culture effects behavior and not all culture is the same.

Rape is defined by law - so the last part is somewhat flippent.

I meant that varying culture will effect peoples attitudes differently. The bottom line is the law as you point out.
I see the danger in highlighting these sorts of statistics but I also see the benefits. Fueling right wing blood lust is not something anyone wants to do but there is also duty of care to the public. It is a tightrope.

I'm a big fan of statistical data and information, I'd like to see all relevant data sets, rather than just a few, and see them calculated over periods of time so that outliers can be identified.

Only by approaching data in the most objective terms possible, can you produce statistical significance and reliable facts.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 15 1.42pm
Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Nov 2015 10.40am Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Nov 2015 6.16pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 6.05pm Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Nov 2015 3.37pm Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 1.35pm Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Nov 2015 10.59am Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 8.28pm Now you see this is what I can not understand. No one on here saying that all rapes are commited by Muslim/pakistani men. What is trying to be high lighted,is that it is a growing problem. But the left leaning on here just want to tar everybody who thinks its a problem as Racist. And I don't think any one has tried to say all rapes are carried out by Muslim/pakistani men. So cut out the sensationalisn,all rape is disgusting and the rapists deserve stringing up by the bollocks then beaten to death. Your very valid comment highlighted in red above has been overlooked by many on here. Ridiculous comparisons with a 1949 Israeli rape case and trying to play down the fact that Muslims participating in gang rape is a growing problem makes the left leaning on here look very silly and/or irresponsible. I doubt its actually a growing problem, but rather one that has achieved recent highlighting in the media and popularity. I wouldn't say that I was playing down Muslims or gang rape, but highlighting the fact that we tend to focus on rather convenient misdirections that allow us to place the blame on 'different cultures', rather than addressing the problem with all men in all societies. Focusing on the 12%, rather than the 100% of the problem is utterly stupid. The problem isn't with Islam or Muslims, its with men, irrespective of culture. Or are we also to presume that White British Light Entertainment also promotes a culture of rape. Of course it doesn't, the problem lies in all cultures and within 'male status and power within society and culture' - and pakistani and Muslim cultures are very male orientated power cultures, but we're not exactly far behind them. And it stems from exactly the same sources. Status, power, gender inequality, education and identity. The problem is in how we raise men, how men think about women and sex, regard women and sex, value women and sex. Its also not about 'winning arguements' but the reality of facts. We're arguing about a small percentage of offenders, based on a convenient correlation, because its easier than admitting that there is a massive problem in society with sexual violence and abuse aimed against women. Forgive me, but you seem to be doing cartwheels to avoid facts. Muslim men either commit a disproportionate amount of rape or they don't. That is the beginning and end of it. We all know men are the cause. I'm sure that back in prehistoric times rape was normal but with the advent of society and morality, men had to curb their sexual urges. It's not rocket science. Culture effects behavior and not all culture is the same. Rape is defined by law - so the last part is somewhat flippent. I meant that varying culture will effect peoples attitudes differently. The bottom line is the law as you point out. I see the danger in highlighting these sorts of statistics but I also see the benefits. Fueling right wing blood lust is not something anyone wants to do but there is also duty of care to the public. It is a tightrope. I'm a big fan of statistical data and information, I'd like to see all relevant data sets, rather than just a few, and see them calculated over periods of time so that outliers can be identified. Only by approaching data in the most objective terms possible, can you produce statistical significance and reliable facts. Not such an easy task. Let's be honest, not many are interested in facts these days, just self interest,identity politics.
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Quote jamiemartin721 at 13 Nov 2015 10.40am

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Nov 2015 6.16pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 6.05pm

Quote Hrolf The Ganger at 12 Nov 2015 3.37pm

Quote jamiemartin721 at 12 Nov 2015 1.35pm

Quote Hoof Hearted at 12 Nov 2015 10.59am

Quote elgrande at 11 Nov 2015 8.28pm

Your very valid comment highlighted in red above has been overlooked by many on here.

Focusing on the 12%, rather than the 100% of the problem is utterly stupid. The problem isn't with Islam or Muslims, its with men, irrespective of culture.

And it stems from exactly the same sources. Status, power, gender inequality, education and identity.

The problem is in how we raise men, how men think about women and sex, regard women and sex, value women and sex.

Rape is defined by law - so the last part is somewhat flippent.

I'm a big fan of statistical data and information, I'd like to see all relevant data sets, rather than just a few, and see them calculated over periods of time so that outliers can be identified.

Only by approaching data in the most objective terms possible, can you produce statistical significance and reliable facts.

Not such an easy task.

Let's be honest, not many are interested in facts these days, just self interest,identity politics.

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