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"Britain first" has been on this pric*s case for sometime in a campaign to get hate preachers like him of our streets, good news. Extremists against Extremism, says all you need to know about Britain First. I don't really see a difference between them and the Islam4UK etc, other than maybe Britain First, except that Britain First hide behind an agenda of UK Nationalism to pursue their fundamentalist agenda. Just a different flavor of hate. Well Jamie if our useless justice system and police force would do something about the very real problem of Islamic extremism then groups like Britain First wouldn't need to exist, but as our police force are so scared of being branded racist, they do nothing and just arrest the people who speak out against Islamic extremism. Another problem is the weasel like human rights lawyers who stop the likes of Choudry etc being extradited. So wether you like them or not, at least BF stands up against these terrorists. Except Britain First isn't a product of Islamic Extremism, its an off shoot of the British National Party, formed in 1982. Jim Dowson formed the group after leaving the BNP in 2010. In 1999 he was founding militant anti-abortionist groups in Ireland, and like Choudary, has a history of glorifying terrorists (Michael Stone). He also has a history of association in Northern Ireland with Unionism and was involved in organizing rioting over a recent flag issue, along with a long association with Ulster Loyalist groups. Like the Far Right (and left) though out history, Britain First are just capitalizing on popularist issues in order to swell their support. Christian Fundamentalist c**ts are no better than Islamic fundamentalist c**ts. w***ers are w***ers, no matter what 'colour shirt they wear'.
"Who's the real facist? The person who exercises free speech, or the person who tries to stifle it? The mods didn't give me a red because they know full well that you can't ban a poster for simply exercising their right to an opinion. The book 1984 is one you should probably read, but then you'll probably be writing to the powers that be to get it banned, idiot." FUE, 2015. Right wing posters are routinely banned on here. Can't ever remember a left wing poster being banned. Why post a lie so obviously false to anyone who visits HOL regularly?
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"Britain first" has been on this pric*s case for sometime in a campaign to get hate preachers like him of our streets, good news. Extremists against Extremism, says all you need to know about Britain First. I don't really see a difference between them and the Islam4UK etc, other than maybe Britain First, except that Britain First hide behind an agenda of UK Nationalism to pursue their fundamentalist agenda. Just a different flavor of hate. Well Jamie if our useless justice system and police force would do something about the very real problem of Islamic extremism then groups like Britain First wouldn't need to exist, but as our police force are so scared of being branded racist, they do nothing and just arrest the people who speak out against Islamic extremism. Another problem is the weasel like human rights lawyers who stop the likes of Choudry etc being extradited. So wether you like them or not, at least BF stands up against these terrorists. Except Britain First isn't a product of Islamic Extremism, its an off shoot of the British National Party, formed in 1982. Jim Dowson formed the group after leaving the BNP in 2010. In 1999 he was founding militant anti-abortionist groups in Ireland, and like Choudary, has a history of glorifying terrorists (Michael Stone). He also has a history of association in Northern Ireland with Unionism and was involved in organizing rioting over a recent flag issue, along with a long association with Ulster Loyalist groups. Like the Far Right (and left) though out history, Britain First are just capitalizing on popularist issues in order to swell their support. Christian Fundamentalist c**ts are no better than Islamic fundamentalist c**ts. w***ers are w***ers, no matter what 'colour shirt they wear'.
"Who's the real facist? The person who exercises free speech, or the person who tries to stifle it? The mods didn't give me a red because they know full well that you can't ban a poster for simply exercising their right to an opinion. The book 1984 is one you should probably read, but then you'll probably be writing to the powers that be to get it banned, idiot." FUE, 2015. Right wing posters are routinely banned on here. Can't ever remember a left wing poster being banned. Why post a lie so obviously false to anyone who visits HOL regularly? I havn't been on here that long, but seen right wingers banned, but no left wingers. Looking at earlier posts, there are a lot of right wingers banned for no obvious reasons - somtimes it seems for merely taking the p**s.
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"Britain first" has been on this pric*s case for sometime in a campaign to get hate preachers like him of our streets, good news. Extremists against Extremism, says all you need to know about Britain First. I don't really see a difference between them and the Islam4UK etc, other than maybe Britain First, except that Britain First hide behind an agenda of UK Nationalism to pursue their fundamentalist agenda. Just a different flavor of hate. Well Jamie if our useless justice system and police force would do something about the very real problem of Islamic extremism then groups like Britain First wouldn't need to exist, but as our police force are so scared of being branded racist, they do nothing and just arrest the people who speak out against Islamic extremism. Another problem is the weasel like human rights lawyers who stop the likes of Choudry etc being extradited. So wether you like them or not, at least BF stands up against these terrorists. Except Britain First isn't a product of Islamic Extremism, its an off shoot of the British National Party, formed in 1982. Jim Dowson formed the group after leaving the BNP in 2010. In 1999 he was founding militant anti-abortionist groups in Ireland, and like Choudary, has a history of glorifying terrorists (Michael Stone). He also has a history of association in Northern Ireland with Unionism and was involved in organizing rioting over a recent flag issue, along with a long association with Ulster Loyalist groups. Like the Far Right (and left) though out history, Britain First are just capitalizing on popularist issues in order to swell their support. Christian Fundamentalist c**ts are no better than Islamic fundamentalist c**ts. w***ers are w***ers, no matter what 'colour shirt they wear'.
"Who's the real facist? The person who exercises free speech, or the person who tries to stifle it? The mods didn't give me a red because they know full well that you can't ban a poster for simply exercising their right to an opinion. The book 1984 is one you should probably read, but then you'll probably be writing to the powers that be to get it banned, idiot." FUE, 2015. Right wing posters are routinely banned on here. Can't ever remember a left wing poster being banned. Why post a lie so obviously false to anyone who visits HOL regularly? I havn't been on here that long, but seen right wingers banned, but no left wingers. Looking at earlier posts, there are a lot of right wingers banned for no obvious reasons - somtimes it seems for merely taking the p**s. Usually though it has more to do with the 'not following the forum rules', than political bias. Most people who get banned seem to have had it coming for quite some time. Maybe those on the left respond better to warning cards.
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"Britain first" has been on this pric*s case for sometime in a campaign to get hate preachers like him of our streets, good news. Extremists against Extremism, says all you need to know about Britain First. I don't really see a difference between them and the Islam4UK etc, other than maybe Britain First, except that Britain First hide behind an agenda of UK Nationalism to pursue their fundamentalist agenda. Just a different flavor of hate. Well Jamie if our useless justice system and police force would do something about the very real problem of Islamic extremism then groups like Britain First wouldn't need to exist, but as our police force are so scared of being branded racist, they do nothing and just arrest the people who speak out against Islamic extremism. Another problem is the weasel like human rights lawyers who stop the likes of Choudry etc being extradited. So wether you like them or not, at least BF stands up against these terrorists.
Purley! No one deserves that.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 06 Aug 15 3.37pm |
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"Britain first" has been on this pric*s case for sometime in a campaign to get hate preachers like him of our streets, good news. Extremists against Extremism, says all you need to know about Britain First. I don't really see a difference between them and the Islam4UK etc, other than maybe Britain First, except that Britain First hide behind an agenda of UK Nationalism to pursue their fundamentalist agenda. Just a different flavor of hate. Well Jamie if our useless justice system and police force would do something about the very real problem of Islamic extremism then groups like Britain First wouldn't need to exist, but as our police force are so scared of being branded racist, they do nothing and just arrest the people who speak out against Islamic extremism. Another problem is the weasel like human rights lawyers who stop the likes of Choudry etc being extradited. So wether you like them or not, at least BF stands up against these terrorists. Except Britain First isn't a product of Islamic Extremism, its an off shoot of the British National Party, formed in 1982. Jim Dowson formed the group after leaving the BNP in 2010. In 1999 he was founding militant anti-abortionist groups in Ireland, and like Choudary, has a history of glorifying terrorists (Michael Stone). He also has a history of association in Northern Ireland with Unionism and was involved in organizing rioting over a recent flag issue, along with a long association with Ulster Loyalist groups. Like the Far Right (and left) though out history, Britain First are just capitalizing on popularist issues in order to swell their support. Christian Fundamentalist c**ts are no better than Islamic fundamentalist c**ts. w***ers are w***ers, no matter what 'colour shirt they wear'.
"Who's the real facist? The person who exercises free speech, or the person who tries to stifle it? The mods didn't give me a red because they know full well that you can't ban a poster for simply exercising their right to an opinion. The book 1984 is one you should probably read, but then you'll probably be writing to the powers that be to get it banned, idiot." FUE, 2015. Right wing posters are routinely banned on here. Can't ever remember a left wing poster being banned. Why post a lie so obviously false to anyone who visits HOL regularly? I havn't been on here that long, but seen right wingers banned, but no left wingers. Looking at earlier posts, there are a lot of right wingers banned for no obvious reasons - somtimes it seems for merely taking the p**s. Usually though it has more to do with the 'not following the forum rules', than political bias. Most people who get banned seem to have had it coming for quite some time. Maybe those on the left respond better to warning cards. Worth noting that it's quite often the same poster who has been banned under previous guises.
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"Britain first" has been on this pric*s case for sometime in a campaign to get hate preachers like him of our streets, good news. Extremists against Extremism, says all you need to know about Britain First. I don't really see a difference between them and the Islam4UK etc, other than maybe Britain First, except that Britain First hide behind an agenda of UK Nationalism to pursue their fundamentalist agenda. Just a different flavor of hate. Well Jamie if our useless justice system and police force would do something about the very real problem of Islamic extremism then groups like Britain First wouldn't need to exist, but as our police force are so scared of being branded racist, they do nothing and just arrest the people who speak out against Islamic extremism. Another problem is the weasel like human rights lawyers who stop the likes of Choudry etc being extradited. So wether you like them or not, at least BF stands up against these terrorists. Except Britain First isn't a product of Islamic Extremism, its an off shoot of the British National Party, formed in 1982. Jim Dowson formed the group after leaving the BNP in 2010. In 1999 he was founding militant anti-abortionist groups in Ireland, and like Choudary, has a history of glorifying terrorists (Michael Stone). He also has a history of association in Northern Ireland with Unionism and was involved in organizing rioting over a recent flag issue, along with a long association with Ulster Loyalist groups. Like the Far Right (and left) though out history, Britain First are just capitalizing on popularist issues in order to swell their support. Christian Fundamentalist c**ts are no better than Islamic fundamentalist c**ts. w***ers are w***ers, no matter what 'colour shirt they wear'.
"Who's the real facist? The person who exercises free speech, or the person who tries to stifle it? The mods didn't give me a red because they know full well that you can't ban a poster for simply exercising their right to an opinion. The book 1984 is one you should probably read, but then you'll probably be writing to the powers that be to get it banned, idiot." FUE, 2015. Right wing posters are routinely banned on here. Can't ever remember a left wing poster being banned. Why post a lie so obviously false to anyone who visits HOL regularly? I havn't been on here that long, but seen right wingers banned, but no left wingers. Looking at earlier posts, there are a lot of right wingers banned for no obvious reasons - somtimes it seems for merely taking the p**s. Usually though it has more to do with the 'not following the forum rules', than political bias. Most people who get banned seem to have had it coming for quite some time. Maybe those on the left respond better to warning cards. Worth noting that it's quite often the same poster who has been banned under previous guises. Most forums that's grounds for being banned.
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| fed up eagle Between Horley, Surrey and Preston... 06 Aug 15 4.20pm |
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Quote collier row eagle at 05 Aug 2015 4.20pm
"Britain first" has been on this pric*s case for sometime in a campaign to get hate preachers like him of our streets, good news. Extremists against Extremism, says all you need to know about Britain First. I don't really see a difference between them and the Islam4UK etc, other than maybe Britain First, except that Britain First hide behind an agenda of UK Nationalism to pursue their fundamentalist agenda. Just a different flavor of hate. Well Jamie if our useless justice system and police force would do something about the very real problem of Islamic extremism then groups like Britain First wouldn't need to exist, but as our police force are so scared of being branded racist, they do nothing and just arrest the people who speak out against Islamic extremism. Another problem is the weasel like human rights lawyers who stop the likes of Choudry etc being extradited. So wether you like them or not, at least BF stands up against these terrorists. Except Britain First isn't a product of Islamic Extremism, its an off shoot of the British National Party, formed in 1982. Jim Dowson formed the group after leaving the BNP in 2010. In 1999 he was founding militant anti-abortionist groups in Ireland, and like Choudary, has a history of glorifying terrorists (Michael Stone). He also has a history of association in Northern Ireland with Unionism and was involved in organizing rioting over a recent flag issue, along with a long association with Ulster Loyalist groups. Like the Far Right (and left) though out history, Britain First are just capitalizing on popularist issues in order to swell their support. Christian Fundamentalist c**ts are no better than Islamic fundamentalist c**ts. w***ers are w***ers, no matter what 'colour shirt they wear'.
Difference of course is that the Far Right groups have been doing that for decades, pretty much since the resurgence in the 70s of the National Front and British National Party. They've just changed the target from blacks and brown skinned people, to immigrants and muslims as serves their best interest. A surprising number of terrorists have also been Protestants and Catholics, especially in the UK and there are a lot of apologists from those groups who generally can say what they like and protest where they want. Choudary seems more to me to be like a less popular Ian Paisley and his ilk, or Gerry Addams without the snazzy 'legitimate political party' catch phrase.
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Burning poppies isn't a crime. Its dislikable, but as an anti-war protest, its pretty much covered by the ideals of democracy allowing right to protest and the right of free expression. Similarly, non-violent protest is effectively a right in the UK, irrespective of what you are protesting against. Of course if you then come along, full of 'righteous anger' at someone's free speech, even if you hate what they're saying or expressing, and confront them, you're committing public order offences. You have the right to protest about it, obviously, but you if you are counter-protesting, then you're the one escalating the situation. For the record, I don't actually believe in Freedom of Speech, but if you're going to have such a stupid law, it has to be free to everyone, all the time. The idea of using anti-terrorism legislation to deal with what amounts otherwise to freedom of speech and expression, is contradictory. A right, by definition, must exceed the capacity of the state to legislate against that right (otherwise its not a right). Even if I utterly disagree with everything someone says, as long as its not incitement, a criminal threat or conspiracy, then its legal. Remember that Islamic terrorism and Islamic Fundamentalism has no political power in the UK to oppress or change our rights, laws and freedoms and never will. Only the state can do that. And that's what governments tend to do in these situations, make exceptions. Probably good ones, but then once the precident is set, you have people being ejected under those same anti-terrorist laws for disrupting the Labour conference or protesting arms trade shows.
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| dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 06 Aug 15 4.41pm |
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"Britain first" has been on this pric*s case for sometime in a campaign to get hate preachers like him of our streets, good news. Extremists against Extremism, says all you need to know about Britain First. I don't really see a difference between them and the Islam4UK etc, other than maybe Britain First, except that Britain First hide behind an agenda of UK Nationalism to pursue their fundamentalist agenda. Just a different flavor of hate. Well Jamie if our useless justice system and police force would do something about the very real problem of Islamic extremism then groups like Britain First wouldn't need to exist, but as our police force are so scared of being branded racist, they do nothing and just arrest the people who speak out against Islamic extremism. Another problem is the weasel like human rights lawyers who stop the likes of Choudry etc being extradited. So wether you like them or not, at least BF stands up against these terrorists. Except Britain First isn't a product of Islamic Extremism, its an off shoot of the British National Party, formed in 1982. Jim Dowson formed the group after leaving the BNP in 2010. In 1999 he was founding militant anti-abortionist groups in Ireland, and like Choudary, has a history of glorifying terrorists (Michael Stone). He also has a history of association in Northern Ireland with Unionism and was involved in organizing rioting over a recent flag issue, along with a long association with Ulster Loyalist groups. Like the Far Right (and left) though out history, Britain First are just capitalizing on popularist issues in order to swell their support. Christian Fundamentalist c**ts are no better than Islamic fundamentalist c**ts. w***ers are w***ers, no matter what 'colour shirt they wear'.
"Who's the real facist? The person who exercises free speech, or the person who tries to stifle it? The mods didn't give me a red because they know full well that you can't ban a poster for simply exercising their right to an opinion. The book 1984 is one you should probably read, but then you'll probably be writing to the powers that be to get it banned, idiot." FUE, 2015. Right wing posters are routinely banned on here. Can't ever remember a left wing poster being banned. Why post a lie so obviously false to anyone who visits HOL regularly? I havn't been on here that long, but seen right wingers banned, but no left wingers. Looking at earlier posts, there are a lot of right wingers banned for no obvious reasons - somtimes it seems for merely taking the p**s. Usually though it has more to do with the 'not following the forum rules', than political bias. Most people who get banned seem to have had it coming for quite some time. Maybe those on the left respond better to warning cards.
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The media should maybe stop reporting on incidents that are minor, as if they're the news. There were 40 people at that protest burning poppies, every newspaper carried it, for days and turned it into a major news item. Meanwhile a huge student protest, tens of thousands, in London against tuition fees gets minor coverage and generally dismissed. And most of the news focused on a few trouble makers.
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"Britain first" has been on this pric*s case for sometime in a campaign to get hate preachers like him of our streets, good news. Extremists against Extremism, says all you need to know about Britain First. I don't really see a difference between them and the Islam4UK etc, other than maybe Britain First, except that Britain First hide behind an agenda of UK Nationalism to pursue their fundamentalist agenda. Just a different flavor of hate. Well Jamie if our useless justice system and police force would do something about the very real problem of Islamic extremism then groups like Britain First wouldn't need to exist, but as our police force are so scared of being branded racist, they do nothing and just arrest the people who speak out against Islamic extremism. Another problem is the weasel like human rights lawyers who stop the likes of Choudry etc being extradited. So wether you like them or not, at least BF stands up against these terrorists. Except Britain First isn't a product of Islamic Extremism, its an off shoot of the British National Party, formed in 1982. Jim Dowson formed the group after leaving the BNP in 2010. In 1999 he was founding militant anti-abortionist groups in Ireland, and like Choudary, has a history of glorifying terrorists (Michael Stone). He also has a history of association in Northern Ireland with Unionism and was involved in organizing rioting over a recent flag issue, along with a long association with Ulster Loyalist groups. Like the Far Right (and left) though out history, Britain First are just capitalizing on popularist issues in order to swell their support. Christian Fundamentalist c**ts are no better than Islamic fundamentalist c**ts. w***ers are w***ers, no matter what 'colour shirt they wear'.
"Who's the real facist? The person who exercises free speech, or the person who tries to stifle it? The mods didn't give me a red because they know full well that you can't ban a poster for simply exercising their right to an opinion. The book 1984 is one you should probably read, but then you'll probably be writing to the powers that be to get it banned, idiot." FUE, 2015. Right wing posters are routinely banned on here. Can't ever remember a left wing poster being banned. Why post a lie so obviously false to anyone who visits HOL regularly? I havn't been on here that long, but seen right wingers banned, but no left wingers. Looking at earlier posts, there are a lot of right wingers banned for no obvious reasons - somtimes it seems for merely taking the p**s. Usually though it has more to do with the 'not following the forum rules', than political bias. Most people who get banned seem to have had it coming for quite some time. Maybe those on the left respond better to warning cards.
Its the influence of the pacifists. Also should that really contain the word fist.
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Burning poppies isn't a crime. Its dislikable, but as an anti-war protest, its pretty much covered by the ideals of democracy allowing right to protest and the right of free expression. Similarly, non-violent protest is effectively a right in the UK, irrespective of what you are protesting against. Of course if you then come along, full of 'righteous anger' at someone's free speech, even if you hate what they're saying or expressing, and confront them, you're committing public order offences. You have the right to protest about it, obviously, but you if you are counter-protesting, then you're the one escalating the situation. For the record, I don't actually believe in Freedom of Speech, but if you're going to have such a stupid law, it has to be free to everyone, all the time. The idea of using anti-terrorism legislation to deal with what amounts otherwise to freedom of speech and expression, is contradictory. A right, by definition, must exceed the capacity of the state to legislate against that right (otherwise its not a right). Even if I utterly disagree with everything someone says, as long as its not incitement, a criminal threat or conspiracy, then its legal. Remember that Islamic terrorism and Islamic Fundamentalism has no political power in the UK to oppress or change our rights, laws and freedoms and never will. Only the state can do that. And that's what governments tend to do in these situations, make exceptions. Probably good ones, but then once the precident is set, you have people being ejected under those same anti-terrorist laws for disrupting the Labour conference or protesting arms trade shows. Yet burning a Koran is - young man arrested in Yorkshire for it in December.
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