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BlueJay  UK 25 Aug 21 11.29pm |
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Even those against Brexit should hope that it's a success really, as there's little mileage or goodness in hoping that the country fails. I urge those people to view it as a 'freebie', in that if it's a success then your fears were unfounded, and if it fails and we're back with our tail between our legs then you'll get the outcome you wanted.
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 ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 Aug 21 11.50am |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Even those against Brexit should hope that it's a success really, as there's little mileage or goodness in hoping that the country fails. I urge those people to view it as a 'freebie', in that if it's a success then your fears were unfounded, and if it fails and we're back with our tail between our legs then you'll get the outcome you wanted. I doubt there'll be a rush to take the UK back. The club will be too cosy by then and the key party committees will be in full swing.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 26 Aug 21 11.52am |
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IMHO over the next 10-15 years the EU will be struggling if in existence at all as more countries leave. There will be push back from the net contributors against the net takers
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Orange1290  26 Aug 21 12.13pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
IMHO over the next 10-15 years the EU will be struggling if in existence at all as more countries leave. There will be push back from the net contributors against the net takers Based on no factual information just what you would like to see. I remember people stating similar things about the Euro around 20 years ago on how it's demise in the following years was clear. Well look, the Euro is alive and healthy and so is in fact the EU. Sure there are some disagreements but that's to be expected in the world's largest trading bloc made up of 27 members, to think otherwise is naive and misinformed.
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Badger11  Beckenham 26 Aug 21 12.31pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I doubt there'll be a rush to take the UK back. The club will be too cosy by then and the key party committees will be in full swing. Agreed. I doubt if the EU would want us back as we seemed to oppose every new thing they wanted to do. In the long run I feel it's better for both parties that we went our own way. I don't expect those who voted Remain to agree but be honest whether it was Labour or Tory we always seemed to be swimming against the tide of public opinion in the EU. So unless UK voters and political parties suddenly feel an urge to become full on EU members joining the euro and abolishing borders and signing up to full integration we would just be the anchor slowing them down. They had 40 years of that from us and I suspect they've enough of that. Edited by Badger11 (26 Aug 2021 12.32pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 26 Aug 21 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Even those against Brexit should hope that it's a success really, as there's little mileage or goodness in hoping that the country fails. I urge those people to view it as a 'freebie', in that if it's a success then your fears were unfounded, and if it fails and we're back with our tail between our legs then you'll get the outcome you wanted. I can hope it's a success, but that doesn't change the reality. There's even less value in pretending everything is fine and nothing is the fault of Brexit, which is what is happening currently. We'll never have access to the deal we had before.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Aug 21 12.24pm |
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Today's threats:
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| Orange1290 27 Aug 21 12.34pm |
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Certainly not from the EU. An agreement has been signed. The 'threat' is from the UK not honouring that agreement as it has shown over the last 12 months by breaking the agreement it signed in December 2020 in various ways. Unfortunately the UK has garnered itself an international reputation for breaking agreements unilaterally, that's why the EU has to emphasise contractual obligations at every step.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Aug 21 12.40pm |
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Originally posted by Orange1290
Certainly not from the EU. An agreement has been signed. The 'threat' is from the UK not honouring that agreement as it has shown over the last 12 months by breaking the agreement it signed in December 2020 in various ways. Unfortunately the UK has garnered itself an international reputation for breaking agreements unilaterally, that's why the EU has to emphasise contractual obligations at every step. Perfidious Albion, I get it alright. With those trustworthy Europeans just having to keep those British shopkeepers in line.
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| Orange1290 27 Aug 21 12.46pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Perfidious Albion, I get it alright. With those trustworthy Europeans just having to keep those British shopkeepers in line. It's only a 'threat' if they do a better job than you. However, it's a benefit to everyone else.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Aug 21 1.37pm |
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Originally posted by Orange1290
It's only a 'threat' if they do a better job than you. However, it's a benefit to everyone else. Your beloved China don't do business that way do they spicy. Being better doesn't get you into their markets. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Aug 2021 1.58pm)
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| Stirlingsays 27 Aug 21 1.41pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
IMHO over the next 10-15 years the EU will be struggling if in existence at all as more countries leave. There will be push back from the net contributors against the net takers Yep, as soon as the next financial crises hits and the printing money machine continues to cut the worth of the currency more countries will debate the worth of the union. The biggest gainers are the politicians riding the gravy train.
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