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 HKOwen  Hong Kong 25 Jan 23 1.11pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Well it firstly shows the suggestion that the failure of our economy to recover to pre-pandemic levels is linked to spending in healthcare is incorrect. It also shows that this latest myth that we spend ridiculous amounts on healthcare and we can't keep increasing the funding is a nonsense - we don't spend as much as comparable countries. I have not suggested any link between NHS spending and size of the economy. The percentage of tax revenue we spend on the NHS has never been higher. Do you accept that we have an ageing population and the cost of treatment is totally different to 70 odd years ago when the NHS Do you accept the NHS would benefit from a thorough review and improve things such as procurement for example. If you think that all is rosy and more money is the only thing needed then not much point in having a discussion
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EverybodyDannsNow  SE19 25 Jan 23 2.33pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I have not suggested any link between NHS spending and size of the economy. The percentage of tax revenue we spend on the NHS has never been higher. Do you accept that we have an ageing population and the cost of treatment is totally different to 70 odd years ago when the NHS Do you accept the NHS would benefit from a thorough review and improve things such as procurement for example. If you think that all is rosy and more money is the only thing needed then not much point in having a discussion
No, but you weighed in on an exchanged about exactly that topic. Of course I accept those things (I don't get why people love to debate in pure reductionist statements), but it also does not change the reality that we invest less money than our counterparts in healthcare, and that is a huge factor in why it's so much worse in outcome. And despite the clearly deliberate effort to muddy that water and move the narrative onto efficiency and procurement and whatever else (of which there are clearly valid complaints and concerns), it does not change the financial reality that we are spending less. An ageing population is certainly not something unique to us as a country.
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| The Dolphin 25 Jan 23 3.44pm |
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The NHS gets a ton of money and wastes way too much of it on bureaucracy failing IT and agency staff ( I get that they have no option but to use them by the way)amongst other things.
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cryrst  The garden of England 25 Jan 23 6.58pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
It's made the country considerably fecking poorer - that impacts everyone. Have you been affected directly though. I mean apart from price rises which are worldwide so not brexit driven I would think.
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| Spiderman Horsham 25 Jan 23 8.29pm |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
The NHS gets a ton of money and wastes way too much of it on bureaucracy failing IT and agency staff ( I get that they have no option but to use them by the way)amongst other things. Don’t forget the money wasted on diversity officers
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| Spiderman Horsham 26 Jan 23 8.07am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Don’t forget the money wasted on diversity officers Oops sorry, just read by lecture of the day on another thread Edited by Spiderman (26 Jan 2023 8.07am)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 26 Jan 23 9.38am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Have you been affected directly though. I mean apart from price rises which are worldwide so not brexit driven I would think. I don't mean it rudely, but I find these exchanges utterly pointless - if you don't consider the country I live in getting poorer as something which 'affects me directly' I'm not sure what to tell you. There's a whole exchange above about how our economic performance is worse than what is being seen elsewhere in the world, and you just go straight past it and continue with 'not Brexit driven'.
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 georgenorman 26 Jan 23 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Don’t forget the money wasted on diversity officers Why do we need diversity officers? I thought we lived in a multi-cultural utopia where diversity is an unmitigated blessing and everyone gets along famously.
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| georgenorman 27 Jan 23 7.20am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Don’t forget the money wasted on diversity officers Apparently there are 10,000 equity, diversity and inclusion officers in the public sector at a cost to the taxpayer of £557 million a year.
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| Stirlingsays 27 Jan 23 8.07am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Apparently there are 10,000 equity, diversity and inclusion officers in the public sector at a cost to the taxpayer of £557 million a year. It's quite incredible. 'Make busy' anti white jobs for progressives, enabled by the cuck right, thanks to Cameron and May. Literally throwing money down the drain. When this country remembers its balls these jobs are for the birds.
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| Spiderman Horsham 27 Jan 23 8.55am |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
Apparently there are 10,000 equity, diversity and inclusion officers in the public sector at a cost to the taxpayer of £557 million a year. Mapletree incoming. He has already lectured me on this subject on a different thread and he does know best
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 27 Jan 23 11.22am |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Mapletree incoming. He has already lectured me on this subject on a different thread and he does know best Why do you consider someone explaining their point of view/ offering experience on a topic to be 'lecturing'? You 'lecture' about border force issues often... because you're clearly knowledgeable in that area - why do you have such an issue with other people doing the same? Do you ever think you might be able to learn something from reading an alternative point of view? I've certainly learned things from your border force contributions. It just seems a very strange accusation on a website made for people to exchange ideas and debate.
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