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steeleye20 Croydon 15 Nov 22 1.45pm
We have long-term sickness and many leaving the jobs market retiring early, to add to our labour shortage caused mainly by leaving the EU. We actually need migrants and without them our economy cannot grow. TB said he had to do it, foreign workers are not an add-on but a necessity.
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Croydon 15 Nov 22 1.45pm

We have long-term sickness and many leaving the jobs market retiring early, to add to our labour shortage caused mainly by leaving the EU.

We actually need migrants and without them our economy cannot grow.

TB said he had to do it, foreign workers are not an add-on but a necessity.

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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 15 Nov 22 1.58pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Probably correct, but two things: 1.Why do we need more housing, when the 2 million EU nationals that we were told would leave the country if we voted Brexit, if they presumably weren't all living in tents in a field somewhere. 2.Why should those who decide to enter the country illegally take preference over those that enter for work via the approved channels? We have long-term sickness and many leaving the jobs market retiring early, to add to our labour shortage caused mainly by leaving the EU. We actually need migrants and without them our economy cannot grow. TB said he had to do it, foreign workers are not an add-on but a necessity. hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Probably correct, but two things:
1.Why do we need more housing, when the 2 million EU nationals that we were told would leave the country if we voted Brexit, if they presumably weren't all living in tents in a field somewhere.

2.Why should those who decide to enter the country illegally take preference over those that enter for work via the approved channels?

We have long-term sickness and many leaving the jobs market retiring early, to add to our labour shortage caused mainly by leaving the EU.

We actually need migrants and without them our economy cannot grow.

TB said he had to do it, foreign workers are not an add-on but a necessity.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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Badger11 Beckenham 15 Nov 22 2.02pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 We have long-term sickness and many leaving the jobs market retiring early, to add to our labour shortage caused mainly by leaving the EU. We actually need migrants and without them our economy cannot grow. TB said he had to do it, foreign workers are not an add-on but a necessity. And yet CP tells us unemployment is up. One more point
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Beckenham 15 Nov 22 2.02pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

We have long-term sickness and many leaving the jobs market retiring early, to add to our labour shortage caused mainly by leaving the EU.

We actually need migrants and without them our economy cannot grow.

TB said he had to do it, foreign workers are not an add-on but a necessity.

And yet CP tells us unemployment is up.

One more point

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Spiderman Horsham 15 Nov 22 3.43pm
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines Thanks Spider. So they never have the £2-3000 to pay the smugglers to start with and presumably have to ‘earn’ that in the UK so that they can pay them back. The whole thing is like a game of Top Trumps, where the word ‘asylum’ tops everything else. I’m looking forward to the excuse of an amnesty for those already here, as there doesn’t seem to be any deterrent and that will be the only way to get the official numbers down. Anybody know how Denmark are getting on with their processing centre in Rwanda? Your first paragraph is correct. Also you have to pay up front for a visa application, if it is refused, no refund. IMO there will be an “amnesty “, although the powers that be will not call it that. Over the years there have several such “amnesty’s” but never called that. Basically a clearing excercise. Hear nothing about Denmark so I am assuming it is working but the media don’t want to report it
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Horsham 15 Nov 22 3.43pm

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

Thanks Spider. So they never have the £2-3000 to pay the smugglers to start with and presumably have to ‘earn’ that in the UK so that they can pay them back.
The whole thing is like a game of Top Trumps, where the word ‘asylum’ tops everything else. I’m looking forward to the excuse of an amnesty for those already here, as there doesn’t seem to be any deterrent and that will be the only way to get the official numbers down.

Anybody know how Denmark are getting on with their processing centre in Rwanda?

Your first paragraph is correct. Also you have to pay up front for a visa application, if it is refused, no refund.
IMO there will be an “amnesty “, although the powers that be will not call it that. Over the years there have several such “amnesty’s” but never called that. Basically a clearing excercise.
Hear nothing about Denmark so I am assuming it is working but the media don’t want to report it

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Spiderman Horsham 15 Nov 22 3.52pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 We have long-term sickness and many leaving the jobs market retiring early, to add to our labour shortage caused mainly by leaving the EU. We actually need migrants and without them our economy cannot grow. TB said he had to do it, foreign workers are not an add-on but a necessity. TB did not stop at workers though did he? We were “encouraged” to be lenient when issuing student visas, marriage visa to promote a diverse population. But as I stated previously I doubt many of the Channel migrants will take work and pay taxes, most will end up in the black economy or nothing at all. If an Albanian gets a job offer, let’s say in the NHS ( this seems to be the flavour of the month on here), they can apply for a work permit. Fir a qualified nurse/doctor this will be no problem. So, yes, we can and do recruit migrants
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Horsham 15 Nov 22 3.52pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

We have long-term sickness and many leaving the jobs market retiring early, to add to our labour shortage caused mainly by leaving the EU.

We actually need migrants and without them our economy cannot grow.

TB said he had to do it, foreign workers are not an add-on but a necessity.

TB did not stop at workers though did he? We were “encouraged” to be lenient when issuing student visas, marriage visa to promote a diverse population.
But as I stated previously I doubt many of the Channel migrants will take work and pay taxes, most will end up in the black economy or nothing at all.
If an Albanian gets a job offer, let’s say in the NHS ( this seems to be the flavour of the month on here), they can apply for a work permit. Fir a qualified nurse/doctor this will be no problem. So, yes, we can and do recruit migrants

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Badger11 Beckenham 15 Nov 22 4.06pm
I borrowed this from the BBS, they are all in mourning which makes a change as they usually find something to celebrate. "This is what we can’t see regardless of anyone's view on immigration, this is an empty boat that was far to far out for people to have been able to swim for it and survive and it had not gone back to sea at high tide. I took this photo on Sunday from the golf club and who knows what happened to the poor souls inside it. It’s unlikely to have been brought by current." Of course another explanation could be that the migrants landed safely and that the tide took the empty boat back out to sea. Still the BBS is about feelings and not facts, even the Guardian hasn't suggested that this was a tragedy. Edited by Badger11 (15 Nov 2022 4.07pm) Attachment: DA6AC9B7-61CE-4780-8026-4C9507EB9CBB.jpeg (443.43Kb) One more point
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Beckenham 15 Nov 22 4.06pm

I borrowed this from the BBS, they are all in mourning which makes a change as they usually find something to celebrate.

"This is what we can’t see regardless of anyone's view on immigration, this is an empty boat that was far to far out for people to have been able to swim for it and survive and it had not gone back to sea at high tide. I took this photo on Sunday from the golf club and who knows what happened to the poor souls inside it. It’s unlikely to have been brought by current."

Of course another explanation could be that the migrants landed safely and that the tide took the empty boat back out to sea. Still the BBS is about feelings and not facts, even the Guardian hasn't suggested that this was a tragedy.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Nov 2022 4.07pm)

Attachment: DA6AC9B7-61CE-4780-8026-4C9507EB9CBB.jpeg (443.43Kb)

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Spiderman Horsham 15 Nov 22 4.54pm
Originally posted by Badger11 I borrowed this from the BBS, they are all in mourning which makes a change as they usually find something to celebrate. "This is what we can’t see regardless of anyone's view on immigration, this is an empty boat that was far to far out for people to have been able to swim for it and survive and it had not gone back to sea at high tide. I took this photo on Sunday from the golf club and who knows what happened to the poor souls inside it. It’s unlikely to have been brought by current." Of course another explanation could be that the migrants landed safely and that the tide took the empty boat back out to sea. Still the BBS is about feelings and not facts, even the Guardian hasn't suggested that this was a tragedy. Edited by Badger11 (15 Nov 2022 4.07pm) Whoever took the photo missed a trick. Take possession of the dinghy, buy cheap ticket to Calais, sell it to 15 migrants at 10k a pop. As CP would say parrrttttyyyy
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Horsham 15 Nov 22 4.54pm

Originally posted by Badger11

I borrowed this from the BBS, they are all in mourning which makes a change as they usually find something to celebrate.

Edited by Badger11 (15 Nov 2022 4.07pm)

Whoever took the photo missed a trick. Take possession of the dinghy, buy cheap ticket to Calais, sell it to 15 migrants at 10k a pop. As CP would say parrrttttyyyy

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Teddy Eagle 15 Nov 22 5.03pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Whoever took the photo missed a trick. Take possession of the dinghy, buy cheap ticket to Calais, sell it to 15 migrants at 10k a pop. As CP would say parrrttttyyyy Or claim it was taken at Loch Ness.
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Teddy Eagle

15 Nov 22 5.03pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Whoever took the photo missed a trick. Take possession of the dinghy, buy cheap ticket to Calais, sell it to 15 migrants at 10k a pop. As CP would say parrrttttyyyy

Or claim it was taken at Loch Ness.

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cryrst The garden of England 15 Nov 22 5.41pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Whoever took the photo missed a trick. Take possession of the dinghy, buy cheap ticket to Calais, sell it to 15 migrants at 10k a pop. As CP would say parrrttttyyyy Oh dear he or it not sure tbh will be sad you found his or it’s emoji
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The garden of England 15 Nov 22 5.41pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Whoever took the photo missed a trick. Take possession of the dinghy, buy cheap ticket to Calais, sell it to 15 migrants at 10k a pop. As CP would say parrrttttyyyy

Oh dear he or it not sure tbh will be sad you found his or it’s emoji