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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 23 Aug 15 8.10pm

I'm not sure that is such a thing as inherent behaviour where a choice is involved.

 


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legaleagle Flag 23 Aug 15 8.13pm

"inherent" can mean characteristic attribute or instinctive or innate behaviour.

Edited by legaleagle (23 Aug 2015 8.15pm)

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 23 Aug 15 8.15pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

The awful crimes thrust upon poor Victorian children by white British types of the day must make us predisposed to such evil too if such a thing does exist within other nationalities.

 


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leggedstruggle Flag Croydon 23 Aug 15 8.16pm

Quote legaleagle at 23 Aug 2015 8.13pm

"inherent" can mean characteristic attribute.


What like pomposity?

 


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legaleagle Flag 23 Aug 15 8.56pm

or like being asinine.Though no ethnic group holds a monopoly on either

 

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The Judge2 Flag 23 Aug 15 9.35pm

Quote Kermit8 at 23 Aug 2015 8.15pm

The awful crimes thrust upon poor Victorian children by white British types of the day must make us predisposed to such evil too if such a thing does exist within other nationalities.

Indeed. It is the culture and the accepted morality or lack of it that makes people different in terms of behaviour. It has little to do with so called race.

However,to deny that people exhibit different behaviour, some of which might be undesirable, just to uphold a political view point is nuts.

In short, when it comes to behaviour, we are not all on the same page.

 

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legaleagle Flag 23 Aug 15 9.50pm

It would be equally "nuts " to suggest IMO that all members of any given ethnicity living in this country are inherently more pre-disposed to engage in child abuse or to tolerate it.

Plenty of abusers got tolerated in plenty of societies at different times for various reasons (just look at the tolerance for the likes of Saville within "celeb" culture and the Beeb for decades).Take the Catholic Church as another example,or abuse in British children's homes.

We're not all on the same page indeed. There are abusers,those who turn a blind eye (many relatives of kids abused in families?many of those working in children's homes?) and those who abhor it.Its not an "inherent ethnic issue" other than for ethnophobes and perhaps some ethnocentrists.

As the CEOP (part of the National Crime Agency) put it in 2013:

"four key threats:

the proliferation of indecent images of children,
online sexual exploitation,
transnational child sexual abuse; and
contact child sexual abuse.

Other key findings show that approximately 190,000 UK children will suffer contact sexual abuse by a non-related adult before turning 18, with approximately 10,000 new child victims of contact sexual abuse being reported in the UK each year."

To the extent its "endemic", it knows no ethnic boundaries.Child sex abusers of all ethnicities are indeed all "on the same page".

Edited by legaleagle (23 Aug 2015 10.02pm)

 

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The Judge2 Flag 23 Aug 15 10.02pm

What you say is to a greater extent true I'm sure but how would you explain abuse occurring in multiple towns involving unassociated people of the same nationality.
I'd like to here an explanation.

 

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Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 23 Aug 15 10.22pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Quote The Judge2 at 23 Aug 2015 9.35pm

Quote Kermit8 at 23 Aug 2015 8.15pm

The awful crimes thrust upon poor Victorian children by white British types of the day must make us predisposed to such evil too if such a thing does exist within other nationalities.

Indeed. It is the culture and the accepted morality or lack of it that makes people different in terms of behaviour. It has little to do with so called race.

However,to deny that people exhibit different behaviour, some of which might be undesirable, just to uphold a political view point is nuts.

In short, when it comes to behaviour, we are not all on the same page.

Indeed slightly off kilter but same vein. I find it slightly amusing that there are guys in my neighbourhood from the Yemen who are quite happy to be sucking on bottle of bud & smoking cigarettes yet expect there wives to dress head to toe in a burqua

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 23 Aug 15 10.28pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Quote Stirlingsays at 23 Aug 2015 3.33pm

Quote Kermit8 at 23 Aug 2015 3.15pm


Not at all. Just that 'phobias' are irrational mind related are they not? Something that can be cured via appropriate treatment more often than not.

Edited by Kermit8 (23 Aug 2015 3.15pm)


I think people can get a little carried away with the 'phobia' in the word xenophobia......Again, it's seeing reality as extremes rather than sliding scales.

Not liking outsiders is hardly a 'phobia' for the vast majority of people.

Like racism the word xenophobic gets easily attributed to people who's ideas aren't shared in that area by their opponents......like the racism slur it's designed to close down debate.....Just a general point, I'm not accusing you of that Kermy

It's like people calling Farage xenophobic when he has a German wife.

If opponents of a certain view actually put thought into why others held different views maybe there would be less mud slinging going around and the debate would be elevated.

That's a truism for both sides of most arguments.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Aug 2015 3.35pm)


As an aside.... I think it is time for you to admit you were wrong about Usain Bolt being a dope cheat now, don't you? I hope you saw the race today. We had a minor debate about his abilities a while back and kinda agreed that if he wasn't outed by now you would back down and hold your hands up.

 


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legaleagle Flag 23 Aug 15 10.33pm

Quote The Judge2 at 23 Aug 2015 10.02pm

What you say is to a greater extent true I'm sure but how would you explain abuse occurring in multiple towns involving unassociated people of the same nationality.
I'd like to here an explanation.

Well,it happens all the time it seems all over the UK by groups of people holding British nationality.Remember the Islington children's homes scandal and cover up? They were largely of British nationality,no?

I would say that you focus on certain (horrific) examples where a gang of predominantly (but not exclusively) people from one ethnic background (likely British nationality) have engaged in systematic child abuse.But you don't focus on other instances where the "gang" may be comprised of people of varying ethnicities or a single white British ethnicity. See link below about another group of child abusers active amongst other places,in Yorkshire convicted earlier this year, seemingly predominantly of a particular ethnicity.Police described the men as "monsters in disguise", working together to commit some of the most "vile and depraved" child sex offences the authorities have ever seen.

And see another link from last month of a group of abusers recently convicted in Wales.What ethnicity do you think it likely most of them are?

In the case of the instances you choose to focus on,taking Rotherham and Oxford as examples,in one instance police/social workers were criticised for being afraid of being called racist. I've already said in other posts I'm against racism or fear of being called a racist as being a factor in investigation and stopping child abuse.

In the Oxford example,it was found fear of being called racist played no part in the investigation fiasco at all;just plain incompetence and not taking kids seriously which,in my limited knowledge,is far more the usual case.

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legaleagle Flag 23 Aug 15 10.38pm

Quote Jimenez at 23 Aug 2015 10.22pm

Quote The Judge2 at 23 Aug 2015 9.35pm

Quote Kermit8 at 23 Aug 2015 8.15pm

The awful crimes thrust upon poor Victorian children by white British types of the day must make us predisposed to such evil too if such a thing does exist within other nationalities.

Indeed. It is the culture and the accepted morality or lack of it that makes people different in terms of behaviour. It has little to do with so called race.

However,to deny that people exhibit different behaviour, some of which might be undesirable, just to uphold a political view point is nuts.

In short, when it comes to behaviour, we are not all on the same page.

Indeed slightly off kilter but same vein. I find it slightly amusing that there are guys in my neighbourhood from the Yemen who are quite happy to be sucking on bottle of bud & smoking cigarettes yet expect there wives to dress head to toe in a burqua

Like the Brits in the Empire who went to great lengths to "protect" the "Memsahibs" from the locals but engaged in horizontal "fraternisation" themselves on a regular basis

 

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