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cryrst The garden of England 05 Nov 22 4.06pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle They are reporting what the Police have said. Just because an MP, and observers, have suggested the attacker had mental health problems doesn't mean he had, and it would be irresponsible reporting at this stage to say so. It's the sort of thing that the Mail would include, to try to excuse the behaviour. And, of course, has! If he had a health problem I have no doubt that will be covered at the appropriate time. Which would be when a professional clinician who had diagnosed him has said said so. Until then it's tittle tattle being offered as an excuse. The Muslim that killed those gay men in reading was stated as having mental health issues. Not the fact that he believed what his Dopey book said about gays deserving to be killed. When the cap fits I guess!
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The garden of England 05 Nov 22 4.06pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They are reporting what the Police have said.

Just because an MP, and observers, have suggested the attacker had mental health problems doesn't mean he had, and it would be irresponsible reporting at this stage to say so. It's the sort of thing that the Mail would include, to try to excuse the behaviour. And, of course, has!

If he had a health problem I have no doubt that will be covered at the appropriate time. Which would be when a professional clinician who had diagnosed him has said said so. Until then it's tittle tattle being offered as an excuse.

The Muslim that killed those gay men in reading was stated as having mental health issues. Not the fact that he believed what his Dopey book said about gays deserving to be killed. When the cap fits I guess!

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Teddy Eagle 05 Nov 22 4.09pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I see that the BBC report on the fire bombing at Dover seems to have been updated to include this:- "Tim Jacques, senior national co-ordinator for counter terrorism policing, said: "After considering the evidence collected so far, whilst there are strong indications that mental health was likely a factor, I am satisfied that the suspect's actions were primarily driven by an extremist ideology." Which has been quoted by the BBC, and not ignored! It is also a carefully worded statement by the police. After the headline claim it was driven by right wing ideology which doesn't happen in cases of machete or bomb outrages.
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05 Nov 22 4.09pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I see that the BBC report on the fire bombing at Dover seems to have been updated to include this:-

"Tim Jacques, senior national co-ordinator for counter terrorism policing, said: "After considering the evidence collected so far, whilst there are strong indications that mental health was likely a factor, I am satisfied that the suspect's actions were primarily driven by an extremist ideology."

Which has been quoted by the BBC, and not ignored!

It is also a carefully worded statement by the police.

After the headline claim it was driven by right wing ideology which doesn't happen in cases of machete or bomb outrages.

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berlinpalace berlin 05 Nov 22 5.25pm
Originally posted by cryrst The Muslim that killed those gay men in reading was stated as having mental health issues. Not the fact that he believed what his Dopey book said about gays deserving to be killed. When the cap fits I guess! [Link] The BBC and the trial judge both described those murders as a terror attack and that he was only pretending to have mental health issues. The only difference here is that at least that far right nut job who firebombed the centre had the decency to top himself.
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berlin 05 Nov 22 5.25pm

Originally posted by cryrst

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The BBC and the trial judge both described those murders as a terror attack and that he was only pretending to have mental health issues.
The only difference here is that at least that far right nut job who firebombed the centre had the decency to top himself.

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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Nov 22 6.34pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle We aren't discussing what I think deserves prominence. We are discussing what you think the BBC does. I think it reaches a generally fair and balanced approach, irrespective of my preferences. Which is your opinion, other opinions are available. One more point
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Beckenham 05 Nov 22 6.34pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We aren't discussing what I think deserves prominence. We are discussing what you think the BBC does. I think it reaches a generally fair and balanced approach, irrespective of my preferences.

Which is your opinion, other opinions are available.

One more point

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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Nov 22 6.45pm
I noticed a BBC report today "French Far Right Has New leader to Replace Le Pen." I have seen this "French Far Right Party" on many occasions and I just skipped over it until today. 1. Does the National Front Party recognise this term? Do they consider themselves Far Right? If so fair enough, however: 2. If the BBC is happy to pigeon hole them as far right I don't remember them ever saying "The Cuban or Venezuelan Hard Left Government" so where is the partiality in that. One more point
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Beckenham 05 Nov 22 6.45pm

I noticed a BBC report today "French Far Right Has New leader to Replace Le Pen."

I have seen this "French Far Right Party" on many occasions and I just skipped over it until today.

1. Does the National Front Party recognise this term? Do they consider themselves Far Right? If so fair enough, however:

2. If the BBC is happy to pigeon hole them as far right I don't remember them ever saying "The Cuban or Venezuelan Hard Left Government" so where is the partiality in that.

One more point

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 7.34pm
Originally posted by Teddy Eagle After the headline claim it was driven by right wing ideology which doesn't happen in cases of machete or bomb outrages. The headline is taken directly from the police statement and is an accurate description of their conclusions. You cannot include everything in a headline! You would have to specifically reference how other incidents were reported for any comparisons to be made. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 7.34pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

After the headline claim it was driven by right wing ideology which doesn't happen in cases of machete or bomb outrages.

The headline is taken directly from the police statement and is an accurate description of their conclusions. You cannot include everything in a headline!

You would have to specifically reference how other incidents were reported for any comparisons to be made.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 7.40pm
Originally posted by cryrst The Muslim that killed those gay men in reading was stated as having mental health issues. Not the fact that he believed what his Dopey book said about gays deserving to be killed. When the cap fits I guess! Stated by whom and with what evidence? From memory only, I think it was his lawyers trying to find a way to minimise and soften his sentence. That's their job. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 7.40pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Stated by whom and with what evidence?

From memory only, I think it was his lawyers trying to find a way to minimise and soften his sentence. That's their job.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 7.46pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Which is your opinion, other opinions are available. Quite obviously. Some the polar opposite of yours. Which is why the BBC are thought by me to usually get things more right than wrong, For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 7.46pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Which is your opinion, other opinions are available.

Quite obviously. Some the polar opposite of yours.

Which is why the BBC are thought by me to usually get things more right than wrong,

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cryrst The garden of England 05 Nov 22 7.50pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Quite obviously. Some the polar opposite of yours. Which is why the BBC are thought by me to usually get things more right than wrong, Oh so that’s ok then. 52% right and 48% wrong. Seems like a decent figure !
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The garden of England 05 Nov 22 7.50pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Quite obviously. Some the polar opposite of yours.

Which is why the BBC are thought by me to usually get things more right than wrong,

Oh so that’s ok then. 52% right and 48% wrong. Seems like a decent figure !

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HKOwen Hong Kong 05 Nov 22 9.38pm
Originally posted by Henry of Peckham There's probably only a very slim margin for selling them on because the market is saturated. NE Kent has a dearth of drug dealers. It's the biggest growth industry hereabouts these days along with illegal immigration and lorry parking on the M20. But nobody cares or has done anything about it. Dearth means lack of something or scarce? Do you mean the opposite? Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 05 Nov 22 9.38pm

Originally posted by Henry of Peckham

There's probably only a very slim margin for selling them on because the market is saturated. NE Kent has a dearth of drug dealers. It's the biggest growth industry hereabouts these days along with illegal immigration and lorry parking on the M20. But nobody cares or has done anything about it.

Dearth means lack of something or scarce?

Do you mean the opposite?

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 10.52pm
Originally posted by cryrst Oh so that’s ok then. 52% right and 48% wrong. Seems like a decent figure ! Only if you think all those who voted leave also disapprove of the BBC. Which doesn’t appear very likely to me. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 05 Nov 22 10.52pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Oh so that’s ok then. 52% right and 48% wrong. Seems like a decent figure !

Only if you think all those who voted leave also disapprove of the BBC.

Which doesn’t appear very likely to me.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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cryrst The garden of England 05 Nov 22 11.00pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Only if you think all those who voted leave also disapprove of the BBC. Which doesn’t appear very likely to me. It was replying to your bbc reports being more right than wrong. Not who does or doesn’t like the bbc.
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The garden of England 05 Nov 22 11.00pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Only if you think all those who voted leave also disapprove of the BBC.

Which doesn’t appear very likely to me.

It was replying to your bbc reports being more right than wrong. Not who does or doesn’t like the bbc.

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