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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 15 10.54pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 10.33pm Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2015 10.26pm To my mind, tis all scapegoating and scaremongering to deflect away from the real issues affecting us. Immigrants-a common enemy to focus your ire. Really Nick? That's what you truly believe after all the points made against immigration on Hol? You think it's about 'scapegoating and scaremongering'? Sometimes I feel like giving up debating. I think the whole immigration thing has been blown up out of proportion. That's not to say that there shouldn't be border controls. But i also think we should take our fair share - which looking at the figures provided earlier, doesn't seem to be happening. There's been so much underinvestment in and cutting away of our infrastructures in recent times. That's where the issue lies.
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nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Aug 15 10.54pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 10.33pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2015 10.26pm

To my mind, tis all scapegoating and scaremongering to deflect away from the real issues affecting us.
Immigrants-a common enemy to focus your ire.

Really Nick? That's what you truly believe after all the points made against immigration on Hol?

You think it's about 'scapegoating and scaremongering'?

Sometimes I feel like giving up debating.

I think the whole immigration thing has been blown up out of proportion. That's not to say that there shouldn't be border controls. But i also think we should take our fair share - which looking at the figures provided earlier, doesn't seem to be happening.

There's been so much underinvestment in and cutting away of our infrastructures in recent times. That's where the issue lies.

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Stirlingsays 18 Aug 15 11.39pm
Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.51pm Actually Stirling,I visit Japan every year and like doing so.Helps that I'm not averse to them being of a different race,religion and ethnicity to me. As of 2010,more than 2 million people from elsewhere lived there. Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 11.03pm) Can't stay there though. The Japanese protect their nationality. Like I say, I like and respect that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.51pm

Actually Stirling,I visit Japan every year and like doing so.Helps that I'm not averse to them being of a different race,religion and ethnicity to me.

As of 2010,more than 2 million people from elsewhere lived there.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 11.03pm)

Can't stay there though.

The Japanese protect their nationality.

Like I say, I like and respect that.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 19 Aug 15 12.04am
Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 11.39pm Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.51pm Actually Stirling,I visit Japan every year and like doing so.Helps that I'm not averse to them being of a different race,religion and ethnicity to me. As of 2010,more than 2 million people from elsewhere lived there. Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 11.03pm) Can't stay there though. The Japanese protect their nationality. Like I say, I like and respect that. I know of two people who have been in Japan for a couple of years at least. Ones told me that they are constantly told they smell of milk. Seems the japs are lactose intolerent.
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Shizzlehurst 19 Aug 15 12.04am

Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 11.39pm

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.51pm

Actually Stirling,I visit Japan every year and like doing so.Helps that I'm not averse to them being of a different race,religion and ethnicity to me.

As of 2010,more than 2 million people from elsewhere lived there.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 11.03pm)

Can't stay there though.

The Japanese protect their nationality.

Like I say, I like and respect that.

I know of two people who have been in Japan for a couple of years at least.
Ones told me that they are constantly told they smell of milk. Seems the japs are lactose intolerent.

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Stirlingsays 19 Aug 15 12.30am
Quote nickgusset at 19 Aug 2015 12.04am I know of two people who have been in Japan for a couple of years at least. Ones told me that they are constantly told they smell of milk. Seems the japs are lactose intolerent. One of my mates is teaching English there....Been there a year. What are you saying Nick? You can work in Japan....nothing wrong in that....But to become Japanese you can't keep your dual nationality. Overall Japan has very little immigration.....This has been a deliberate policy. [Link] That's how they like it according to surveys.....You see they actually had a choice. Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Aug 2015 3.17am) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote nickgusset at 19 Aug 2015 12.04am

I know of two people who have been in Japan for a couple of years at least.
Ones told me that they are constantly told they smell of milk. Seems the japs are lactose intolerent.

One of my mates is teaching English there....Been there a year. What are you saying Nick?

You can work in Japan....nothing wrong in that....But to become Japanese you can't keep your dual nationality.

Overall Japan has very little immigration.....This has been a deliberate policy.

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That's how they like it according to surveys.....You see they actually had a choice.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Aug 2015 3.17am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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matt_himself Matataland 19 Aug 15 3.11am
Quote nickgusset at 19 Aug 2015 12.04am Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 11.39pm Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.51pm Actually Stirling,I visit Japan every year and like doing so.Helps that I'm not averse to them being of a different race,religion and ethnicity to me. As of 2010,more than 2 million people from elsewhere lived there. Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 11.03pm) Can't stay there though. The Japanese protect their nationality. Like I say, I like and respect that. I know of two people who have been in Japan for a couple of years at least. Ones told me that they are constantly told they smell of milk. Seems the japs are lactose intolerent. For your information, the term 'j*p' is considered to be an ethnic slur by some people: [Link] Whilst I am totally against 'political correctness gone mad', it is advisable not to use it as it may cause offence. Edited by matt_himself (19 Aug 2015 3.15am) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02
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Matataland 19 Aug 15 3.11am

Quote nickgusset at 19 Aug 2015 12.04am

Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 11.39pm

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.51pm

Actually Stirling,I visit Japan every year and like doing so.Helps that I'm not averse to them being of a different race,religion and ethnicity to me.

As of 2010,more than 2 million people from elsewhere lived there.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 11.03pm)

Can't stay there though.

The Japanese protect their nationality.

Like I say, I like and respect that.

I know of two people who have been in Japan for a couple of years at least.
Ones told me that they are constantly told they smell of milk. Seems the japs are lactose intolerent.

For your information, the term 'j*p' is considered to be an ethnic slur by some people:

[Link]

Whilst I am totally against 'political correctness gone mad', it is advisable not to use it as it may cause offence.

Edited by matt_himself (19 Aug 2015 3.15am)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

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leggedstruggle Croydon 19 Aug 15 7.02am
Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2015 10.54pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 10.33pm Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2015 10.26pm To my mind, tis all scapegoating and scaremongering to deflect away from the real issues affecting us. Immigrants-a common enemy to focus your ire. Really Nick? That's what you truly believe after all the points made against immigration on Hol? You think it's about 'scapegoating and scaremongering'? Sometimes I feel like giving up debating. I think the whole immigration thing has been blown up out of proportion. That's not to say that there shouldn't be border controls. But i also think we should take our fair share - which looking at the figures provided earlier, doesn't seem to be happening. There's been so much underinvestment in and cutting away of our infrastructures in recent times. That's where the issue lies. Is it possible for you to expand on this please? mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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leggedstruggle

Croydon 19 Aug 15 7.02am

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2015 10.54pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 10.33pm

Quote nickgusset at 18 Aug 2015 10.26pm

To my mind, tis all scapegoating and scaremongering to deflect away from the real issues affecting us.
Immigrants-a common enemy to focus your ire.

Really Nick? That's what you truly believe after all the points made against immigration on Hol?

You think it's about 'scapegoating and scaremongering'?

Sometimes I feel like giving up debating.

I think the whole immigration thing has been blown up out of proportion. That's not to say that there shouldn't be border controls. But i also think we should take our fair share - which looking at the figures provided earlier, doesn't seem to be happening.

There's been so much underinvestment in and cutting away of our infrastructures in recent times. That's where the issue lies.

Is it possible for you to expand on this please?

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

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leggedstruggle Croydon 19 Aug 15 7.54am
Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.33pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 10.20pm Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.07pm And now loads of Brits want to live in multi-cultural Australia...but unlike the old days loads can't go ..because they have points-based immigration rules that no longer are biased towards those from one particular background (Brits).It seems you are opposed to a society which has pretty strong immigration rules but practices multi culturalism overwhelmingly successfully for those who live there. Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 10.11pm) I'm don't believe in multiculturalism. I was forced to live within it growing up and I exactly what I'm talking about. If others are happy with that lifestyle then I'm happy for them. Though I'm not sure I buy your rosy picture about Australia....But I haven't researched it. I believe in a points based system but rather than encouraging an acceptance of multiple cultures I'm far more a supporter of integration into a host culture. The left have lost this argument in Britain....The whole reasons that UKIP started up is because of people with views like yourself Legal. What you see in Australia (and I have lived there) is that IMO the multi-cultural policies,implemented in a very positive way,have led to very great overall integration generally of certainly the immigrants' kids born/reared there. That you see so little to seemingly admire from their example is a pity,though predictable since I know and appreciate you do not believe in multi culturalism full stop. Presumably your opposition to seeing any positives at all arising from multi-culturalism even extends to food,a clear beneficiary of the more diverse range of restaurants available to us as a result of becoming a more multi cultural society than say back in the the fifties.Do you abstain from even the occasional curry on the basis anything resulting from multi culturalism (as opposed to immigrants "integrating" by only offering trad British delights)must,by definition,be negative? Umm Stirling, the reason UKIP started up was because of the views of people like you Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 10.49pm) Curry? Dreadful stuff and looks like dog's vomit. You should cut out the middle man and throw it straight down the loo. mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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leggedstruggle

Croydon 19 Aug 15 7.54am

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.33pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 10.20pm

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.07pm

And now loads of Brits want to live in multi-cultural Australia...but unlike the old days loads can't go ..because they have points-based immigration rules that no longer are biased towards those from one particular background (Brits).It seems you are opposed to a society which has pretty strong immigration rules but practices multi culturalism overwhelmingly successfully for those who live there.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 10.11pm)

I'm don't believe in multiculturalism. I was forced to live within it growing up and I exactly what I'm talking about.

If others are happy with that lifestyle then I'm happy for them. Though I'm not sure I buy your rosy picture about Australia....But I haven't researched it.

I believe in a points based system but rather than encouraging an acceptance of multiple cultures I'm far more a supporter of integration into a host culture.

The left have lost this argument in Britain....The whole reasons that UKIP started up is because of people with views like yourself Legal.

What you see in Australia (and I have lived there) is that IMO the multi-cultural policies,implemented in a very positive way,have led to very great overall integration generally of certainly the immigrants' kids born/reared there.

That you see so little to seemingly admire from their example is a pity,though predictable since I know and appreciate you do not believe in multi culturalism full stop.

Presumably your opposition to seeing any positives at all arising from multi-culturalism even extends to food,a clear beneficiary of the more diverse range of restaurants available to us as a result of becoming a more multi cultural society than say back in the the fifties.Do you abstain from even the occasional curry on the basis anything resulting from multi culturalism (as opposed to immigrants "integrating" by only offering trad British delights)must,by definition,be negative?

Umm Stirling, the reason UKIP started up was because of the views of people like you

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 10.49pm)

Curry? Dreadful stuff and looks like dog's vomit. You should cut out the middle man and throw it straight down the loo.

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leggedstruggle Croydon 19 Aug 15 8.00am
Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 7.59pm Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 7.49pm Quote leggedstruggle at 18 Aug 2015 5.50pm Australia.. is now experiencing the usual problems of mass immigration of people of different race, religion, language and culture. Nail on head.....I was just too lazy and busy today to go through the counter argument. Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Aug 2015 7.49pm) Interesting Stirling.Why is it "nail on head" to suggest Australia has not generally been a stunning example of successful migration of people from all over the world,under a policy of multiculturalism,ie 2006 census (top nine foreign born groups other than those born in UK or New Zealand),206,000 born in China,199,000 born in Italy,159,000 Vietnam, 147,000 India,120,000 Philippines,109,000 Greece,106,00 Germany. Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 8.00pm) "stunning example of successful migration" - struth mate: [Link] mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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Croydon 19 Aug 15 8.00am

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 7.59pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 7.49pm

Quote leggedstruggle at 18 Aug 2015 5.50pm

Australia.. is now experiencing the usual problems of mass immigration of people of different race, religion, language and culture.

Nail on head.....I was just too lazy and busy today to go through the counter argument.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Aug 2015 7.49pm)

Interesting Stirling.Why is it "nail on head" to suggest Australia has not generally been a stunning example of successful migration of people from all over the world,under a policy of multiculturalism,ie 2006 census (top nine foreign born groups other than those born in UK or New Zealand),206,000 born in China,199,000 born in Italy,159,000 Vietnam, 147,000 India,120,000 Philippines,109,000 Greece,106,00 Germany.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 8.00pm)

"stunning example of successful migration" - struth mate:
[Link]

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Stirlingsays 19 Aug 15 8.04am
Legal thinks that if you're not fond of multiculturalism that it's doubtful that you should be in favour of curry. One of the more amusing points made in the argument around multiculturalism. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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19 Aug 15 8.04am

Legal thinks that if you're not fond of multiculturalism that it's doubtful that you should be in favour of curry.

One of the more amusing points made in the argument around multiculturalism.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Kermit8 Hevon 19 Aug 15 8.12am
London how it should be, poo-filled Thames and slums an' all [Link] If anyone knows the music do tell. Ta. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 19 Aug 15 8.12am

London how it should be, poo-filled Thames and slums an' all

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If anyone knows the music do tell. Ta.

Big chest and massive boobs

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Kermit8 Hevon 19 Aug 15 8.14am
Quote Stirlingsays at 19 Aug 2015 8.04am Legal thinks that if you're not fond of multiculturalism that it's doubtful that you should be in favour of curry. One of the more amusing points made in the argument around multiculturalism. It's a fair point. We should be putting our own herbs and vegetables first before other culinary incomers. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 19 Aug 15 8.14am

Quote Stirlingsays at 19 Aug 2015 8.04am

Legal thinks that if you're not fond of multiculturalism that it's doubtful that you should be in favour of curry.

One of the more amusing points made in the argument around multiculturalism.

It's a fair point. We should be putting our own herbs and vegetables first before other culinary incomers.

Big chest and massive boobs

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leggedstruggle Croydon 19 Aug 15 8.22am
Quote matt_himself at 19 Aug 2015 3.11am Quote nickgusset at 19 Aug 2015 12.04am Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 11.39pm Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.51pm Actually Stirling,I visit Japan every year and like doing so.Helps that I'm not averse to them being of a different race,religion and ethnicity to me. As of 2010,more than 2 million people from elsewhere lived there. Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 11.03pm) Can't stay there though. The Japanese protect their nationality. Like I say, I like and respect that. I know of two people who have been in Japan for a couple of years at least. Ones told me that they are constantly told they smell of milk. Seems the japs are lactose intolerent. *For your information, the term 'jp' is considered to be an ethnic slur by some people:** [Link] Whilst I am totally against 'political correctness gone mad', it is advisable not to use it as it may cause offence. Edited by matt_himself (19 Aug 2015 3.15am) Yes, we need to nip this sort of thing in the bud. mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler
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leggedstruggle

Croydon 19 Aug 15 8.22am

Quote matt_himself at 19 Aug 2015 3.11am

Quote nickgusset at 19 Aug 2015 12.04am

Quote Stirlingsays at 18 Aug 2015 11.39pm

Quote legaleagle at 18 Aug 2015 10.51pm

Actually Stirling,I visit Japan every year and like doing so.Helps that I'm not averse to them being of a different race,religion and ethnicity to me.

As of 2010,more than 2 million people from elsewhere lived there.

Edited by legaleagle (18 Aug 2015 11.03pm)

Can't stay there though.

The Japanese protect their nationality.

Like I say, I like and respect that.

I know of two people who have been in Japan for a couple of years at least.
Ones told me that they are constantly told they smell of milk. Seems the japs are lactose intolerent.

For your information, the term 'j*p' is considered to be an ethnic slur by some people:

[Link]

Whilst I am totally against 'political correctness gone mad', it is advisable not to use it as it may cause offence.

Edited by matt_himself (19 Aug 2015 3.15am)

Yes, we need to nip this sort of thing in the bud.

mother-in-law is an anagram of woman hitler

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