This thread seems to have wandered off the original familiar topic of the right blaming everything they don't like onto a hypothetical "left" influence, in this case attempts to tackle obesity, onto the NHS and now bullying in government.

Having just returned from a holiday in the Canaries, I can assure you that anyone who doesn't believe we have an obesity crisis is in denial. The comparison between the British holidaymakers and those from the rest of Europe, and the locals who served them all, is stark. I noticed exactly the same last year when I was in Spain, France and Italy.

On average, we look overweight and less fit, than our neighbours. They also appear more polite, more tolerant, better dressed and better educated than us. That applies at all levels of society. They appear to have more money and look generally happier and healthier.

This is a complete reversal to what I remember when I first started to visit 60 or more years ago.

You cannot blame the left for this as the rest of Europe is more socially democratic than us.

So instead of looking for mythical scapegoats I suggest those who complain take a long hard look at themselves, and their attitudes. The problems originate there!

If I thought Brexit was stupid in 2016 I am even more convinced today and seeing how other people in Europe are living only tends to confirm that.

Europeans aren't exactly svelte either.

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Having just returned from a holiday in the Canaries, I can assure you that anyone who doesn't believe we have an obesity crisis is in denial. The comparison between the British holidaymakers and those from the rest of Europe, and the locals who served them all, is stark. I noticed exactly the same last year when I was in Spain, France and Italy.

On average, we look overweight and less fit, than our neighbours. They also appear more polite, more tolerant, better dressed and better educated than us.

This thread seems to have wandered off the original familiar topic of the right blaming everything they don't like onto a hypothetical "left" influence, in this case attempts to tackle obesity, onto the NHS and now bullying in government.

Having just returned from a holiday in the Canaries, I can assure you that anyone who doesn't believe we have an obesity crisis is in denial. The comparison between the British holidaymakers and those from the rest of Europe, and the locals who served them all, is stark. I noticed exactly the same last year when I was in Spain, France and Italy.

On average, we look overweight and less fit, than our neighbours. They also appear more polite, more tolerant, better dressed and better educated than us. That applies at all levels of society. They appear to have more money and look generally happier and healthier.

This is a complete reversal to what I remember when I first started to visit 60 or more years ago.

You cannot blame the left for this as the rest of Europe is more socially democratic than us.

So instead of looking for mythical scapegoats I suggest those who complain take a long hard look at themselves, and their attitudes. The problems originate there!

If I thought Brexit was stupid in 2016 I am even more convinced today and seeing how other people in Europe are living only tends to confirm that.

None of this has anything to do with Brexit. Brexit will prevail and be advantageous in the longer term.
It certainly has nothing to do with obesity. Perhaps the fact that we have far more fast food outlets than anywhere else in Europe might be a clue to the actual causes.